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AttorneyTime4601 OP t1_ivlteja wrote

Weird hill to die on. ‘If we stop oppressing people they might try to oppress us like we did to them for several hundred years’ is pretty weak. That’s not a real concern that is comparable to any real issue at hand. Killmonger was a fictional character.

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Wyldfire2112 t1_ivmk9p4 wrote

>‘If we stop oppressing people they might try to oppress us like we did to them for several hundred years’ is pretty weak.

Dude, work on your reading comprehension, because that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that it's possible to oppress someone while being oppressed at the same time, and black people routinely get away with saying shit that would get a white person lynched because any time someone tries to bring up black racism they get shouted down.

>Killmonger was a fictional character.

And yet he represents a trend I've seen developing since well before Black Panther was released. If you're going to claim he didn't have a basis in shit that actually gets said, you're either lying or hopelessly naive.

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red_baa_ron t1_ivmu8o7 wrote

Keep on trying to argue the merits of "black on white racism", or perhaps you prefer the phrase "reverse racism". Ask a black person working on diversity, equity, and inclusion in this town and see what they say about it.

You claim to vote all Democrat, but I've literally had this same conversation with staunch Fox News and Qanon conservatives. The difference is they weren't pretending to care, they were obvious about it.

Further reading:

https://www.theroot.com/if-a-white-person-said-that-the-false-equivalency-of-r-1828373496

https://racism.org/articles/defining-racism/2073-top-10-ways-black-people-keep?showall=1

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Wyldfire2112 t1_ivn8csj wrote

No, I wouldn't prefer the term "reverse racism," because that implies the natural order of racism is whites being racist against blacks. Which is fucking racist.

Also, nice job at deciding that I'm a racist qtard just because I'm not completely guzzling the kool-aid and pretending "racial bias" is somehow not racism with a prettier name to downplay it.

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red_baa_ron t1_ivnbxqg wrote

If only the town knew what a hidden gem they have here, a true scholar of racism and race relations. I suppose the actual people doing real work in this field don't matter to you. After all, this conversation is just an attempt for you to try and insert your will on what you think about the terminology, not to learn something or contribute anything of value. All while completely distracting from the important points. Score one for anti-racism.

You'd certainly find any number of bigots here who would share your opinion. That alone should give you pause.

Good luck to you on your journey, I'm done trying to help you.

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Wyldfire2112 t1_ivnfryn wrote

Being done implies you were ever interested in helping me to begin with.

You being completely unwilling to admit black people are even capable of racism and accusing me of being racist for daring to hold them to the same standards as white people is hilariously hypocritical.

You also have no idea of my background, the reading I've done, or the personal connections I have but, sure, go ahead and write me off as ignorant because it makes you feel better.

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AttorneyTime4601 OP t1_ivn4czm wrote

Get away with saying things? People say things all the time. You’re getting away with saying some real dumb shit right now. Things were actually DONE to black and brown folks for a long time. You wanna police what they can SAY about it? You’re obviously trying to keep them in a certain position. The opposition to their ideas continues to say things and do things to oppress them. You included.

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Wyldfire2112 t1_ivn9fqu wrote

From the way you and the other dude are jumping down my throat, I'm not getting away with shit.

You're trying to shout me down and silence me for disagreeing with the party line, and I'm not letting you.

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AttorneyTime4601 OP t1_ivofut8 wrote

I can see now that you make no sense and are afraid of black people

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Wyldfire2112 t1_ivpspux wrote

The fact you think me daring to say black people are as capable of racism as white people means I'm afraid of black people is hilarious.

So is the fact you can't grasp just how much you're acting like the oppressor you claim I am.

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