sgf-guy t1_iwqqv3x wrote on November 17, 2022 at 5:23 PM

20 mil over 50 years and 100 users a day with no maintenance or overhead costs added in is $10 per user. That seems expensive and not a good use of funds.

ShartsvilleDestroyer t1_iwqti8a wrote on November 17, 2022 at 5:40 PM

Did you take into consideration the estimated economic benefit this is predicted to bring in?

sgf-guy t1_iwtgz4f wrote on November 18, 2022 at 5:35 AM

I believe I saw a thing that said it was supposed to bring in $18 per visitor…but….these will very largely be people locally who were already going to do an activity and spend money anyway. So no, I don’t buy that math.

I’ve attended more city council meetings that most any multi term council person will…and projected economic benefit is grifter talk a LOT of the time.

I like history so I can respect the idea…but this doesn’t make sense. If this is such a great idea the local cyclist/jogger community will make it happen on their own. The thing about the govt being involved is it will never go away even if it doesn’t make sense. See the recent Nixa police/sports center vote for an example.

robzilla71173 t1_iwqwr4t wrote on November 17, 2022 at 6:01 PM

None of these things is fiscally sensible. They're astroturfing Cooper Park over the winter at a cost of 25 million. They want to bring in big soccer tournaments. What it will really do is wreck the neighborhood for people that live there and wreck a really nice park and probably wreck some children's knees. We aren't all about the smart thing in this country. Right now there's a lot of unspent covid money and debt be damned, we're going to find stupid things to spend it on. Personally I'd prefer the greenways trail to a plasticized park, but over the years I've only found one of the trails to be uncrowded enough to be useful at all. I would bet most of them get way over 100 users a day.

sgf-guy t1_iwtiiod wrote on November 18, 2022 at 5:52 AM

I live by the Grant Avenue project and that is a nightmare. One of the best quick local transit for locals from Sunshine to North of Norton options…and now it is “free” money becoming a thing that will ruin it all. More traffic on Campbell and Fort and Kansas because locals will avoid Grant.

I’ve found government has expanded beyond essential services to new departments and projects and job justification…used to be the media could call up the dept heads and talk with them on the record but now we have entire PR depts…who will speak for dept head…despite knowing nothing.

You could cut at least 1/3rd of modern govt and stop chasing projects…because they exist to justify their job but not be essential. Surely if soccer was such a big deal a private company would have made it a business. Surely if cyclists or joggers or walkers cared enough they would made it happen.