Submitted by Realistic-Sun3480 t3_zr9pg0 in springfieldMO
DebbieDunnbbar t1_j12zxib wrote
Hurr durr it’s not the breed, it’s irresponsible owners durrrrrr
You know what happens if you’re an irresponsible owner of a Beagle? He steals the food off your kitchen table and doesn’t come when you call him. He doesn’t maul an entire playground of children.
People should have to have a license and insurance to own a pit bull.
Ryanqzqz t1_j13ll7p wrote
It's not always irresponsible owners, either. I had to euthanize a corgi several years ago because despite being kind, loving, and cuddly - because when our neighbors dog had puppies, anytime she came anywhere near our yard and my wife or kids were also present, my Corgi would go into full defensive mode.
Neighbors dog was a loving, cuddling Lab mix. Great with everyone and constantly full of tail wags.
About a week into trying to keep them separated; I got a phone call one afternoon on my drive home. Our corgi had lit into the neighbors Lab and my wife couldn't calm them down.
I arrived to my Corgi, death-latched onto the labs neck and ear, blood everywhere, all over my children, all over both dogs, all over the yards - The lab is standing there whimpering; crouching down to keep her head low, and my Corgi is doing that thing little dogs do with toys, where they shake their heads back and forth.
Kicking, scolding, commanding (and she was well trained) and even spraying with water didn't work...I had to choke hold my Corgi to unconsciousness to get her to release.
After cleaning them off, all the blood was from the Lab, my dog was unscathed.
My kids were traumatized, I was worried what would happen if my 90lb wife was home alone the next time this occurred....
Neighbor said they felt guilty because it must've been their dogs fault for heading into our yard to see my kids. I told them heck no - the fault was all mine for not keeping my dog away and not figuring out how to get her trained to leave the Lab alone, or some-such avoidance of the inevitable....
That said - if you have a dog you know is capable of damage - you have to be responsible with it.... even if they're nice, and cuddly, and warm - and OBVIOUSLY this owner was not, at least in this instance.... I took my consequences and had to lose a best friend, because I was dumb... it won't happen again - but I care about my dogs like their my kids.... Imagine what happens to any dog when they aren't treated that way/marginalized/not socialized and/or they're actively treated worse.
DebbieDunnbbar t1_j13mk29 wrote
I’m not disagreeing. Dogs can do that shit even when raised in a great environment.
But it’s hard to know what pit bull apologists mean by “irresponsible” (and the goal posts probably move on that anyway). Some people, like the guy below, it apparently means abusing the shit out of your dog. Others it seems to mean shit like not having a tall fence for your giant pit bull. The only consistent thing is they will never admit certain breeds are prone to this shit.
Ryanqzqz t1_j13n002 wrote
Agreed! On all points!
I mean, my father-in-law used to train Malinois for police work and SAR... are they inherently aggressive? No? Are they inherently able to be made aggressive with a higher propensity than some other breeds? Yes.
A lot of it has to do with activity drive. But most dog owners don't have time for that - and if you leave a dog with high activity drive to its own devices, it's going to find things to do - and those will be dog-centric and dog-oriented things... and funnily enough, that doesn't always line up with the kinds of behavior we humans want from our furry companions!
lincoln3x7 t1_j15xnto wrote
My older chihuahua attacked a walker on the sidewalk after bolting though a door. The nice fellow said “I think he bit me, not sure though”
Zebulander t1_j13amc4 wrote
Bull beat and starve a beagle and it’ll attack all the same as any dog.
Maxwyfe t1_j144i86 wrote
But it won't attack with the same force as a pit bull.
DebbieDunnbbar t1_j13b338 wrote
So "irresponsible owner" to you means "actively torturing and trying to turn your dog into a violent killing machine."
Because that's not what most pit bull apologists mean by it.
Zebulander t1_j13bko3 wrote
So you think those dogs attacked because they were denied table scraps or couldn’t use their favorite toy? Maybe you should have a spoiled dog.
DebbieDunnbbar t1_j13ld9h wrote
No, those dogs attacked because the breed has a crazy prey drive and it saw a bunch of little two-legged snacks. Something Beagles and lots of other breeds typically don’t do.
It’s the breed.
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