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throwawayinnotime t1_j1sv1rm wrote

Reply to comment by Tully1022 in Does anyone here work for the City of Springfield? by [deleted]

I'm not really seeing how what I'm asking for is unethical. Can you explain?

To clarify, I'm not asking anyone to lie and say I'm their best friend from childhood, but that I seem to be a solid guy that they met on the internet. I would actually want to do some back and forth with someone over PM to give them more of my background and whatnot before they refer me.

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Tully1022 t1_j1u5kkg wrote

Put yourself in the employer's place. Would you want someone who chatted with someone else on the internet to vouch for their work habits? That's generally what a referral is for.

I see it as someone who has known you for some time and better yet has worked with you previously. I don't see it as something a "virtual" friend can do.

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zakriebinx t1_j1vodu3 wrote

It’s a job with the city my guy. Calm down. You act as though he is applying for a convent.

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Tully1022 t1_j1werju wrote

So city jobs have different ethic requirements, is that what you're saying? What difference does it make? Never mind, that was a rhetorical question for you. It obviously makes a difference.

So educate me, where do you draw the line on how important the job before ethical behavior kicks in?

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zakriebinx t1_j1wglhf wrote

Wow. You need to chill. Life is too short to be as up tight as your sorry ass.

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Tully1022 t1_j1wie9k wrote

So if my opinion differs from yours I'm tight? If you don't like my opinion then butt out of the conversation. You apparently have some pretty low life values yourself.

BTW, you didn't answer my question, scooter.

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zakriebinx t1_j1wkhnj wrote

You are a sad little judgmental boomer who has nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior. I hope you get to touch some grass soon.

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Tully1022 t1_j1wzt2d wrote

Ahhh, now I see where your thoughts come from. Thanks but no thanks to the weed. I'll take life as it is. You still didn't answer my question, Cheech.

For your information, I'm not sad at all. I retired a few years ago and built a home on Table Rock Lake. I'm doing just fine my little friend who is searching for the meaning in life and why boomers question those without morals and ethics. :)

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throwawayinnotime t1_j1x03m7 wrote

Not at all. Perhaps you are thinking of a letter of reference. A referral is when a current employee tells you about an open position at their company. There is a portion on job applications that say "were you referred to us by a current employee of (so and so company)? If so, whom?"

You don't need a close, personal relationship with Joe Schmoe who works for Dish Network and tells you they are hiring and that you should apply, but Joe Schmoe would indeed be referring you at that point.

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Tully1022 t1_j1x4rf6 wrote

Your story is changing. It went from "I seem to be a solid guy that they met on the internet" to hey, this guy told me a bout a job opening you have. 2 different situations. I hope you find the job you wan t and it works out for you.

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throwawayinnotime t1_j1x6mwn wrote

It isn't changing. I'm explaining what a referral is and how it isn't as personal as a letter of recommendation. If you're an employee on a job site, you wouldn't refer someone you met on that said job site if you felt they were incompetent, but you don't have to be their friend, either. It's a softer judge of character than a reference or recommendation.

You could know enough about a person you met online to refer them, but it would be unwise to write a letter or recommendation for them or let them use you as a reference. These are three separate things. My story isn't changing.

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Tully1022 t1_j1x7w6t wrote

You're free to see it as you want. We all set our ethic levels in life. I've said my piece. I'm done.

Just a word of advice, don't take much stock in your dope smoking supporter in looking for a job in SPFD. LOL.

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