the_honeyman t1_j3sfl1n wrote on January 10, 2023 at 7:33 PM

Reply to comment by dailycitizen in Springfield City Council votes 5-3 to approve zoning request for 7 Brew on Sunshine & Jefferson by SliceOfBrain

I'm not even particularly in favor of this project, but it feels like literally every proposal put forth is met with heaps of criticisms from this sub, from the Grant Ave parkway stuff to the unused space in Galloway to the National and Sunshine lots that aren't suitable in the slightest for housing anymore.

With the economic system we live in (which I'm not in favor of either, in the least) if a city isn't growing, it's dying. At the very least, I know I don't want to live in a dying city. But if all development stops, like it seems some here would prefer, that's where we'll be headed.

Edit: also, what negatives are you talking about? Increased congestion is about the only one I can think of, and even then Sunshine and Campbell is only really bad around 8am and 5 pm. The majority of the rest of the day it's fine.

Snekathan t1_j3sii3z wrote on January 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM

I actively avoid sunshine at all hours of the day save for nighttime, I guess if you’re used to the congestion it may not be terrible but coming from other sides of town it’s a shitshow

Between chik-fil-a, Starbucks, canes, bass pro, parkview high school down the road, and all the other businesses? There’s no argument you could make in favor of putting more in this area outside of “I want coffee” that would make any sense. There’s plenty of other spots in town that would be able to better handle the extra traffic than an already-congested area

the_honeyman t1_j3sizd7 wrote on January 10, 2023 at 7:53 PM

Again, I'm not arguing in favor of this project. It just doesn't matter where or what the project is. Just look at the Grant Avenue proposal backlash.