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Wendypeffy t1_j5at3go wrote

As someone who was a server and bartender for 14 years….I would never ever trade tipping for a flat rate of pay. You could pay me $15 an hour and I would have still been taking a loss. I feel like this “Pay the servers better” is coming from people who just don’t like tipping, not from the employees themselves. As servers we do get paid a minimum wage and if during the pay period we don’t earn an average of state minimum, we do get compensated to make up for the shortage. In 14 years that has never happened to me though. Of course there are tons of variables here but this is my anecdotal experience.

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Weirdbutnotcrazy t1_j5av8pb wrote

Agree. Full time servers at Lambert's pre pandemic gross with tips about $100k yr....nights and weekends and every holiday......

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But_Ox OP t1_j5awhd1 wrote

Consider the playing field. Your specific position does not speak to the eniquailty factor. It only suports what you have experienced. The nuance is greater and not equal to those who do same work but who are subjected to less pay.

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Wendypeffy t1_j5bmfrf wrote

Read my last sentence. I did mention variables and anecdotal “evidence” for my point. You wanted to discuss and I threw in my 2 cents. Just offering a common perspective from those I’ve encountered in my years of experience working with hundreds of other servers through the years. We all greatly value our tip situation. I only met ONE server that felt like pay was unfair. The rest of them appreciated working 20-30 hours a week and making as much as full time hourly workers. Every job has its ups and downs.

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But_Ox OP t1_j5bom6j wrote

"Of course tons of variables" vs the weight of your larger and initial position. I stand firm with your bias as it does not negate the imposition of this inherent problem. You must see that all thing being equal, the system, as is, is a far cry from effort=pay

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Wendypeffy t1_j5cb3q3 wrote

So you don’t want a discussion. You want to argue. I get it.

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But_Ox OP t1_j5cjjcv wrote

Where you got that is all in you.

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But_Ox OP t1_j5cridc wrote

Discussion yes. And you are WAY too happy with your $ stream to consider the average server. So from your elite position, I say a grand FUCK U

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