A-Delonix-Regia t1_jabn841 wrote
Why? IMO any content created by ChatGPT should not be taken into account when grading students' assignments since the student didn't create it in its final form with their brain (same reason why I feel that quotes by other people (unless using as an example and not to argue in favour of your own point), spellcheckers, and Grammarly should not be used by students for assignments that affect their grades, but can be used to learn how to write better), so there should be no benefit to using such content.
C0rn3j t1_jabsipn wrote
> spellcheckers should not be used by students
Because you won't have a spell checker in your pocket at all times in the real life...
slantedangle t1_jabx6yq wrote
>Because you won't have a spell checker in your pocket at all times in the real life...
You also have a calculator in your pocket at all times in the real life. What's your opinion on whether or not students should learn math?
C0rn3j t1_jabxicf wrote
If you're dealing with grammar, you're 99.9% doing it in the digital world and can easily fix it with assistance with no drawbacks.
If you're in the casino wondering what's the chance of rolling snake eyes, you're unlikely to be pulling out your phone, so I'd say basic math is much more important than perfect grammar without assistance.
slantedangle t1_jabxyi0 wrote
>If you're dealing with grammar, you're 99.9% doing it in the digital world and can easily fix it with assistance with no drawbacks.
>If you're in the casino wondering what's the chance of rolling snake eyes, you're unlikely to be pulling out your phone, so I'd say basic math is much more important than perfect grammar without assistance.
So you think students should learn math in case they want to gamble? That's your best argument?
A-Delonix-Regia t1_jabspkl wrote
No, because you should learn how to spell without any external assistance. Just like how kids learn to do basic math on their own.
C0rn3j t1_jabuz96 wrote
How are you supposed to know you are making a mistake without a correction being pointed out?
eatabean t1_jac7b7x wrote
Oooohhh, that's a bingo. Taking power away from the teachers, are we? Who will get to play gatekeeper?
A-Delonix-Regia t1_jabvfaa wrote
Reread my top level comment. I said it is okay to use while learning. In my opinion, if you use such tools in graded assignments, you are hiding your own lack of knowledge and fooling yourself.
I mean, graded assignments are a flawed concept in education, but there is no real benefit in using tools like AI there since they do not reflect your own knowledge, unless you use the AI to do research like get a quick summary of what nihilism is about and then rephrase the output in your own words.
Ok-Lobster-919 t1_jabwyb5 wrote
I don't think anybody fully understand the risks of not learning. I read a study about a reduction in neuroplasticity in people who relied on a GPS to traverse their surroundings, like a weakening of the ability to learn. I wouldn't be that surprised if neuroplastic changes continued with the failure to learn spelling. Is spelling not just mapping words to their correct spellings in the brain?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6020662/
Here's a study, there could be a lot more work done but I think it's interesting.
Have people thought of the implications of replacing more and more spatial logic centers of the brain with tools like Chat GPT? Fun stuff to think about! Maybe in the future people will be classified as "learned knowledge clasically" and "has chat gpt".
A-Delonix-Regia t1_jabxd58 wrote
Well said, I had this talking point against using ChatGPT, but I never thought of using it.
bigfatmatt01 t1_jac05jz wrote
Spellcheck and Grammar check both do the work that an editor would do in the proofreading step. When we were in school that step was done by another student to teach how editing works. I have no problem with those tools. Chatgpt replaces the process of turning ideas and thoughts into written word. That I have an issue with.
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