Don't worry guys, the EU is working to save your asses.

‘Of particular relevance to Apple products, one of the changes meant that companies were free to offer “assemblies” of parts, rather than separate components. This could, for example, mean that Apple only has to offer fully-populated motherboards for sale, rather than access to individual components like SSDs. The effect would be to make some repairs uneconomic, as well as to block DIY upgrades.’

Tech trade group TechNet gave suggested wording to NY Governor Kathy Hochul, who reportedly inserted that language verbatim.

Inserted verbatim? Tax payer dollars in action.

While I understand politicians need advisors, I feel that ultimately the full responsibility for the proposed law falls entirely on them (and should be written by them). Blatant cases such as allowing a lobbyist to "do your homework" should result in immediate dismissal and barring from any political position.

Edit: and punitive actions. I don't know about prison, but certainly life destroying financial penalties that would absolutely obliterate any wealth gained up to that point and force them into living like a regular citizen.

Our government is so bought and paid for I'm surprised I can't get it on Amazon.

And prison time. There's no excuse for betraying the public trust looked this.

America has become so incompetent and corrupt that other countries need to be the adults and step in. Not a good look, Yankees.

Hey, it’s how we write our health care reforms. It’s the best way to protect consumers with legislation — let the companies put in as many loopholes and time delays as they deem fit.

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Cool, so defeating the entire point.

Anybody who thought that law would actually be what is implied by its name is crazy. Apple has too much pull in major metropolitan areas. A law like that has to start in states where farming/ranching is a booming trade.

Proprietary hardware is evolving to scarier levels with each bullshit iteration. Is there FSF equivalent for hardware? We need all the help we can get. At least with software as bad as things get, free software is strong and surviving which I never would’ve expected. Hardware is a lot harder but just as worthy of a fight.

Canada has socilized health care, yet is doing so great...that it incentivizes euthanasia.

The E.U isn't much better, sure they got the usb 3.0 thing out of apple, that doesn't mean they are some enlightened state of authority.

The arrest people for saying mean things on social media ffs.

No one country is perfect, it's all about the pro's and con's and if america had more cons than pro's people would be leaving it and moving to EU, moving to mexico, moving to canada....but they aren't are they?

Too poor. It's all going to *insert billionaire*.

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This is in line with the automotive industry. Some products are impossible to buy just by themselves. Like most body damage involves replacing an entire part of the body.

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Put that crack pipe down boy

This is the biggest reason why I won't vote for Hochul again and no one else in NY should either. I would sooner write in "Bernard Sanders".

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Yeah it’s totally reasonable to have subject and industry experts weigh in on the policy you’re writing.

The problem is that politicians don’t actually check the homework that’s done for them. If you’re an engineer for a business and someone tells you “there’s no risks associated with this project,” you translate that as “I don’t know” and find someone else who can actually critique your plan. You don’t assume that there’s literally zero risk, because that just doesn’t happen

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Most people aren't going to have the ability to replace BGA components like DRAM and NVRAM chips on Apple devices. Some repair shops might, but it's not something someone with zero experience and a soldering iron is going to be replacing.

BGA component rework requires $30k+ in equipment, temp and humidity controls and knowledge of how to build thermal profiles.

They are also moisture sensitive, so managing them is more complicated than just sticking them on a shelf and waiting for someone to buy them.

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We do support the right to repair by selling a complete package of spare parts already assembled

Selling parts to people to empower them to break their phones further seems a natural revenue stream.

Arrest people for saying mean things on social media? Fox News been reporting on the boogieman across the ocean?

From Stallman perspective, a hardware is already "libre" or "free" because you can see what's in there and break it to your liking. But yeah, I agree with you that with mobile devices that's not always true

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I don't remember voting for this lobbyist...

Welcome to your government.

I dont think the politicians wouldnt like laws that would hold the politicians responsible for their crimes.

You're too poor. It's only on Amazon for the rich

Ahhh politics in action

Frankly corporate lobbying needs to be banned.

Lawyers for insurance companies wrote the ACA.

We have to pass it to find out what's in it.

Jeff Bezos has entered the discussion, in his PenisRocket (tm)

In those states John Deere will block it.

Not quite. Stallman and FSF have written tons of things about the lack of freedom in hardware.

I went to a Stallman presentation on a local university and I remember he saying something like what I said, this was 12 years ago, so maybe he changed his mind since then with the new trends imposed by the big tech companies.

Do you remember any good article by them? I also remember reading one from the FSF about how websites are not "free" anymore with the raise in popularity of the js/css bundlers that makes frontend code unreadable

I hate this quote so much because it is always used out of context as a smear. Often it is twisted to imply something completely different, like you did here. The pronouns are the key to the quote. Speaker Pelosi was criticising the media for being purposefully deceitful.

The point was the negatives were screamed with a megaphone ad nauseam, but nobody talked about the potential good. Therefore "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

Republicans made it legal for corporations to write this legislation on the behalf of politicians. There's no chance in hell that this is changing any time soon. Just an fyi.

I thought lobbyists wrote all the laws.

>Canada has socilized health care, yet is doing so great...that it incentivizes euthanasia.

Because conservatives have been stripping away their healthcare funding in Canada...

>The E.U isn't much better, sure they got the usb 3.0 thing out of apple, that doesn't mean they are some enlightened state of authority.

The EU is actually much better than both American and Canada.

>The arrest people for saying mean things on social media ffs.

When did the EU do this?

>No one country is perfect, it's all about the pro's and con's and if america had more cons than pro's people would be leaving it and moving to EU, moving to mexico, moving to canada....but they aren't are they?

Because Americans can't afford to leave... LOL

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-hardware-designs.en.html

There's almost nothing I hate worse than UI packers, minification, obfuscation and WebAssembly. Every last bit of it is unmaintainable garbage.

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Some necessary background

> ...the contents of the Affordable Care Act had been publicly available and publicly debated for months when Pelosi made her remarks in March 2010. The bill, in its original form, was passed by the House of Representatives in October 2009, and in the Senate that December. Although the bill was unusually long (the act runs to 906 pages in the legislative record, with many more pages of regulations) its contents had been subjected to intensive debate and scrutiny in both houses of Congress.

Unfortunately less profitable of a revenue stream than having people empowering the companies to break their phones.

The Democratic People’s Republic of the United States

This was one of two events that showed that Gov Hochul was no different than Cuomo. Both are Dem so of course the Republicans don't like them. But then they do some things with a conservative lean that seemed out of character for a Democratic governor.

Hochul pulled this stunt and nominated a Judge who some feel had some very conservative decisions.

Right to repair is a good start. But anti malicious design is what we need.

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They can re write laws to whatever they want, people will find a way around them just like they do when it suits them.

And? You said it yourself - some repair shops will have the equipment and expertise, and it's in everyone's (except apple) interest that those repair shops be allowed buy the components, or you be allowed buy the component and bring it to the repair shop for them to install it.

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Don't blame the players, blame the game. If your politicians are allowed to accept bribes then they will allow lobbyists to write bills. It is really that simple.

This is not the fault of the lobbyists or Apple or whatever. This is the fault of the politicians who are willing to take money to do anything, including doing nothing.

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I'll do you one better - it should be completely illegal for lobbyists to write any kind of cheque to any politician or PAC whatsoever. And every meeting a lobbyist takes with a public official should be broadcast on YouTube.

I'm not american, actually. The concept of a lobbyist, even without the financial aspect, is far too awkward for me to even be worth mentioning.

News flash you are a POS if you own any apple products. A lazy POS at that.

So? Then make it more customer friendly for repairs. Don't punish the customers because your own system is trash. Make the ram install more user friendly.

Then the device becomes thicker, heavier and slower.

Why do I get a shittier device because you mouth breathers can't stop breaking your phones? I've had iPhones since they first came out, I have yet to have to take one to a repair shop and I only upgrade every 2-3 model releases.

Hochul is a shill. She filled her democratic pockets with kickbacks from these enterprises.

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With current technology why do we need politicians that can be bough to make these kinds of decisions? There should already be some form of implementation that allows everyone to vote and decide if we want Apple to ditch a perfectly working MacBook that just needs a $3 component to be changed and force you to buy a new one, or if we want to pay the $50 repair fee and keep going.

Yeah, but no one is stopping a third party vendor from offering the body panel.

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Although, recent Apple products don’t actually use SSDs, for instance. They use raw flash storage. They also use LPDDR ram which has to be soldered or otherwise packaged to work.

A lot of things, yeah. The problem is broadly that their manufacturing is already so expensive that it doesn't make sense to sell it without all the other parts. Like my moonroof blew out and it needed the glass, and the rails replaced. Hypothetically I could get a used part to replace those five things (four rails one glass). But no such used part existed. Instead I had to purchase the entire roof assembly and replace the entire roof. It turns out that moonroof glass is a loss leader for SUV makers.

Laptops are still incredibly thin and powerful and they allow you to change out a lot of parts without soldering.

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More and more modern laptops are all fully integrated now, just like MacBooks.

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