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VincentNacon t1_j9y4fdt wrote

Take Linux instead. Don't let the visual update fool you.

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papetrov99 t1_j9y5zc1 wrote

I would but they look pretty bad, break in weird ways and you cant game. Been the issue for forever.

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Dancing7-Cube t1_j9ym2rb wrote

I play 95% of my Steam library just fine on Ubuntu. Proton is really good.

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Qwrty8urrtyu t1_ja0nzsn wrote

>I play 95% of my Steam library just fine on Ubuntu.

Most people prefer to play 100% of their games to work, and most online games with anticheat will just not run on Linux.

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Bratkartov t1_j9y88zl wrote

C‘mon…. Sounds like you looked at some Linux 25 years ago.

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papetrov99 t1_j9ya488 wrote

Can you recommend one that doesn't have these issues? I mean gaming is off on all but most have trouble with basic functions like screen splitting. I've tried mint and ubuntu, both look like something out of 2014.

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SanDiegoDude t1_j9ylu88 wrote

Honestly, the latest version of Ubuntu is pretty solid, had an old windows laptop SSD fail and tossed the latest version of Ubu on there to do some network server duties... but was pleasantly surprised how modern and just how much better the UI is. I'm not new to Linux either, I've got it running on a few things around the house, but mostly just CLI... Still not a "flawless" experience, since I ran into some issues with swap memory that was causing mysterious crashes when loading AI models until I spent a few hours researching and figured it out, but I could confidently hand this laptop to "non nerd" and they could use it for all their daily light computer tasks just fine. This is the first version of Linux where I really feel comfortable saying that (at least for mainstream distros, I know there's been a few "EZLinux" attempts over the years)

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LoafyLemon t1_j9yyddu wrote

I'd recommend giving Pop!_OS a try, System76 wrote their own modules to solve lots of Ubuntu and gnome issues.

In my experience it works great.

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papetrov99 t1_ja6vpa5 wrote

I ended up going with this. Trying it out on my older laptop, thinkpad t460. To be fair already 1.: Couldn't play mkv file with the default video player, had to get VLC and 2.: When you minimize/maximize tabs it does a weird flicker in the top left corner which is a known bug related to some gnome animation.

This is kind of just funny to me, but really these imperfections are very obvious when you install any kind of linux, some don't have basic video codecs installed. I can get around and fix all of the issues, it's just not a good user experience.

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Bratkartov t1_j9zi02q wrote

Its a matter of taste, personally im Happy with Ubuntu studio 20.04 and XFCE Desktop. You probably only have seen Gnome based Desktop Environments, so maybe you should try another DE like KDE or XFCE or anything else.

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Bratkartov t1_ja0w4mx wrote

Also , I have no idea why you think you can't game on Linux ? There is Steam & Proton / WINE / Heroic Game Launcher etc. which allows you to play a huge pile of Windows games on Linux.

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papetrov99 t1_ja2banx wrote

Why are you coping. Yes you can play a lot of games, and a lot of times you cant or you have to mess around for hours to get one working. It's far from plug and play, its a bunch of open source projects.

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scalyblue t1_ja65hfr wrote

to be fair, linux mint is designed around being run on low-spec machines.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j9ya7lu wrote

The main problem with Linux is clueless idiots trying to impress everyone with how clued in they are by parroting something their mate told them about Linux up the pub 10 years ago.

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papetrov99 t1_j9yaest wrote

My experience with linux is that its super good for the basic stuff but as soon as you want to do something more complex that you do on windows you can run into weird issues where you end up spending hours looking through config files. Just keep using them on servers imo until Google or someone else decides to make something that works well.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j9ybyb1 wrote

I use it as my daily driver for everything. I've been designing my house for the past two years. I just don't recognize this picture you paint.

Have I spent a few hours fiddling with config files to get some esoteric bit of hardware working? Yes. Have I spent a few hours fiddling with drivers and the registry to get some esoteric bit of hardware working in Windows? Again yes. Once, when I set the system up.

IME Linux, once set up stays set up. It's Windows that randomly breaks, chokes itself on it own bloat and commits suicide by update.

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FlyingCockAndBalls t1_j9ywjy4 wrote

Fr. Almost every time linux has broken on me, it was entirely my fault. Only thing I can think of that wasn't my fault was a bad grub update but that took less than 5 minutes to fix. Meanwhile I've had windows just spontaneously break for absolutely no reason

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j9yxcvv wrote

Ah well, we won't talk about the times I broke Linux by poking bits I didn't understand properly....

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__i_hate_reddit t1_ja1gtq4 wrote

oooh what are you using to design your house?

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_ja2ijl1 wrote

I'm using Blender. It's saved me, I don't know how many, thousands of pounds going round the design consultation loop with an architect because by the time we handed them the brief we had already honed it down to what we wanted and they just made some regulatory adjustments before going straight on to planning.

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LoafyLemon t1_j9yx37y wrote

That's old news, I moved to Linux 7 months ago or so, and everything works without tinkering, including all games I play.

What's important is the distribution you pick, because despite what some say, it does matter a lot.

I'm running Pop!_OS, which is the 'no bullshit' option.

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papetrov99 t1_ja6vrrk wrote

I ended up going with this. Trying it out on my older laptop, thinkpad t460. To be fair already 1.: Couldn't play mkv file with the default video player, had to get VLC and 2.: When you minimize/maximize tabs it does a weird flicker in the top left corner which is a known bug related to some gnome animation.

This is kind of just funny to me, but really these imperfections are very obvious when you install any kind of linux, some don't have basic video codecs installed. I can get around and fix all of the issues, it's just not a good user experience.

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LoafyLemon t1_ja812rl wrote

  1. Proprietary codecs suck, there's nothing they can do because it would be illegal to ship those with a system without paying them a ransom for every installation. The solution is to stop using them and move on to open formats like AV1.

  2. I've never had that bug, but you might be happy to hear Pop OS will be moving away from gnome, they're working on COSMIC, it should give them more finer control over the distribution.

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papetrov99 t1_ja8q0uk wrote

Yea heard they're working on that in Rust, pretty nice hopefully it comes out soon.

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papetrov99 t1_ja8u3di wrote

Also the package manager GUI lags if you search, kinda amateur. Also this is gnome again but why is there a calendar that I can sync google calendar into if I then cannot click on any days to view my events/appointments... Also if they have to subsidize codecs why not just install VLC as default which can play anything.

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epic_null t1_j9yl58i wrote

What part of the look do you dislike? There are different UIs, and gaming has gotten better (not 100%, but better)

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epic_null t1_j9yklm9 wrote

I would change from any to most. There are a few that won't run and a few that are really broken.

Still, I can see real effort on Steam's part.

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