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marcololol t1_j8p4cni wrote

Elon didn’t help start this company, nor any of the others he invested money into

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Elgoblino80 t1_j8ps681 wrote

Well, he objectively did.

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marcololol t1_j8pthyw wrote

The point is this supposed tech genius is a complete fraud.

There is good reason to believe that he doesn't even have a physics degree.

https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368?....

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Elgoblino80 t1_j8q8d3e wrote

I don't care? He saw better opportunities ahead of him. He got accepted into a PhD program at Harvard which is more than enough testament to his intelligence. And even if he wasn't intelligent in the field of science. His opportunistic intelligence to jump on the successful business ahead of time is more than enough to have take on the future of AI.

You can call someone evil and hate them but still admit that they are smart. It's not hard. Some nazis were so smart that the US created an entire mission to recruit them.

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marcololol t1_j8qb4n8 wrote

Well I think you’re giving Musk a HUGE benefit of the doubt. Just because you admire the story someone tells about themselves doesn’t mean you shouldn’t investigate and question whether it’s actually truthful. One red flag is that people in this same post are saying Musk got accepted to Harvard, Stanford, and Penn (there’s also evidence that his degree from Penn is fake, he never graduated from Penn and may have never even gone there). So which is it? The root of all those conflicting stories is probably the fact that Musk has lied about his education multiple times across the years in many different news outlets. The second red flag is the “intelligent Nazi” argument.

Any society across history that has put significant state funds into science and mathematics has seen a number of individuals with an aptitude for science and mathematics emerge from that society. so the fact that there were Nazis capable in physics is a result of investments made before Nazis were even a political entity. Hungary is a good example of this also. Look up Count István Széchenyi. These societies were smart way before they became so arrogant and full of themselves that they believed they were a “superior race” and could win a global conflict based on their “races innate traits” alone. They weren’t very smart because they were behind both the Americans and Soviets in arms and technological development. The Americans then had the choice, allow enemy scientists to fall into communist hands and be killed - or, worse, joining to help the Soviet arms industry - or hire themselves themselves. The national socialists in Germany and Hungary were actually so ignorant that they lost a major conflict, and then were ruled by foreign powers for 1.5-2 generations. They weren’t smart.

I hate Nazis. I don’t hate Musk. I just think he’s a liar who’s full of shit, and it’s more obvious by the day.

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DBDude t1_j8pdbxh wrote

Yes he did, one of six principle founders. He was also the founder of SpaceX. He didn’t found Tesla, but it was just three guys with an idea when he joined.

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marcololol t1_j8pqy0p wrote

Not true. SpaceX was an existing technology and idea that needed investment, he simply bought into it with money he got from owning shares of PayPal after he was fired and after it blew up. Tesla was much more than “three guys with an idea,” you should actually look into the details. Musk joined Tesla after its founders had already been producing prototype, functional automobiles with their lithium ion battery tech. The actual founders of Tesla had built and sold a successful consumer electronics company that used its lithium battery tech to create a version of an e-reader. Musk bought in and was so toxic that the founders quit or were fired because of his massive ego and PayPal money. Musk owns no patents in Tesla except for additions to the doors and recharging plug(Musk patented a recharging plug to PREVENT other electric vehicle makers from using Tesla chargers). He’s actually a foolish man with very limited talent and no creativity. He is NOT responsible for Transformers nor LLM technological advancements.

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