TheCaptainDamnIt t1_j8njr1g wrote on February 15, 2023 at 4:55 PM

Good step but ... why just '"farmers", we all need this?

I've been saying since this started the right to repair will finally be addressed... for farmers only because of 'identity politics'. They're the 'real Americans' and only 'they deserve it', rest of us are gonna get the shaft once farmers can repair their equipment. Farmers have the political push, and press sympathy (and they deserve it) but they won't give two shits about anyone else and neither will their politicians or associations once they get theirs. I got the feeling the press coverage and political will for right to repair will die as soon as famers can repair their equipment while they laugh at those 'city people' not being able to fix our computers or electric cars.

Halabane t1_j8omap1 wrote on February 15, 2023 at 9:01 PM

Its on fire for farmers because of how equipment that depends on this is used. They use implements and machines for only certain times. They have windows of time and weather to do something. To plant, cultivate or harvest. The rest of the time the machine sits. If they miss the opportunity waiting for a repair or a license issue to be fixed (cause it happened during one of these windows) they can lose their entire income for the year. I don't think any one would argue we all should be able to but the consequence for farmers is very high.

Quick example, have the DEF sensor goes bonkers (the additive for diesel) and the tractor will shut down. Right in the field or road. Can't move it (well you can move it a little for awhile). Have to have someone remote into the machine to get things to work. In the middle of no where. You can't do it. Imagine your car shutting down in the middle of your commute, because of not a mechanical failure as much as the temp sensor in the cabin was wrong. Agree everyone should be able to repair, be thankful farmers are making a lot of noise. It will help all of us.

The other thing...we all need to read EULA better. We sign to much of our rights away.

TheCaptainDamnIt t1_j8oybgk wrote on February 15, 2023 at 10:18 PM

Yea I understand the issue farmers are having with this, I'm just saying only farmers are going to get the right to repair and the rest of us are gonna be told to pound sand.

Halabane t1_j8pnzji wrote on February 16, 2023 at 1:24 AM

That was part of my point. I think because of them there is a better chance of this being for everyone. You need a group to fight this, not an unorganized bunch of individuals. Don't forget, they just don't need to repair farm equipment, they are in the same boat as you with other stuff too.

TheCaptainDamnIt t1_j8rx9gx wrote on February 16, 2023 at 3:01 PM

> I think because of them there is a better chance of this being for everyone.

No, as I said in my original post > right to repair will finally be addressed... for farmers only because of 'identity politics'. They're the 'real Americans' and only 'they deserve it', rest of us are gonna get the shaft once farmers can repair their equipment.