AndiCui t1_j9m7nw2 wrote
Reply to comment by acosmichippo in Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me. A vital AirTag safety feature is incorrectly notifying me every day. by MayoFetish
> There should be a way to share AirTags with family.
Yes, but there is more to it than just turning off alarm for all family AirTags. The way of sharing must take into account that stalking can also come from abusive people in the relationship.
Should every AirTag gets pre-approved from each member of the family? Can the owner just abuse that AirTag even it was told to the family that it was for their keys, for example?
acosmichippo t1_j9m85z6 wrote
It doesn't seem that complicated to me. no pre-approvals, each AirTag share should require opt-in for each family member, and allow opt-out any time. I don't see how that could be abused.
AndiCui t1_j9m9854 wrote
Hypothetical: Bob ask Alice if he can share the AirTag for his keychain. Alice agrees and approves. Bob drops that AirTag into Alice’s bag one day.
The problem is that the AirTag is not bolted on the item that are legitimately to be tracked.
Some scheme that will occasionally inform users on an interval without the phone giving red alarm every time might be necessary. It’s not as simple as approve and disapprove.
Curious_Charge9431 t1_j9nhkz3 wrote
> and allow opt-out any time
The problem with this is in the domestic violence or stalking situation is that it becomes known to the other person that the AirTag has stopped sharing. (It doesn't matter if it happens through notification or the AirTag disappears from the other person's screen.)
Until the person stops sharing their AirTag the location is shared with the other person and so leads to some point where the AirTag sharing is then turned off.
One way around this is to allow a scramble AirTag location, whereby the person can press a button and the AirTag location is reported as somewhere random and different.
OverthinkingMadMan t1_j9o2ruj wrote
Your solution is the same as just removing the air tag and placing it somewhere. That is already an option. So?
For this to be a problem, you first would have to accept a family invite for a tag, then that tag has to be put on you somewhere, without you knowing it and you would have to be unable to see the location yourself.
If that is the intent, then there are better ways to do that without the other person noticing. Just get a dog tracker that used 4G. That doesn't give notifications, doesn't require the partner to accept anything and the partner would be uanble to see the location.
Curious_Charge9431 t1_j9o7176 wrote
The surreptitious tag stalking was less on my mind, more the family with the domestic violence problem. Dropping the tag and leaving it somewhere is a cleaner solution. I'm tempted to think there is some reason why Apple is so hesitant to allow easy tag sharing.
OverthinkingMadMan t1_j9o79j1 wrote
In a family with domestic violence, there are still far easier methods to do this than with these tags. And as I said, the solution with a tag is to just leave it somewhere. If you want to monitor someone without them knowing it, then you can just use systems that work far better towards that application.
Curious_Charge9431 t1_j9o8m3b wrote
I was thinking more of a domestic violence situation that arose after people had agreed to share their tag tracking info. Not the surreptitious tag stalking (monitoring someone without them knowing) situation.
deelowe t1_j9ou1qm wrote
LOL. It's about MONEY. Apple doesn't give a shit about all this.
They don't want to allow air tag sharing because they want people to buy one for each family member instead of just sharing them.
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