whyreadthis2035 t1_ja1per4 wrote
Pop in salt cooled latest Gen nuclear reactors and that footprint goes way down.
billdietrich1 t1_ja2n89p wrote
Nuclear is losing the cost competition, and every trend line says the gap will get worse. And expecting some new nuclear tech to arrive in some reasonable time and hit its cost targets is unrealistic. The industry has a long history of schedule slips and cost overruns, sometimes by big factors.
whyreadthis2035 t1_ja30yv3 wrote
Yeah, I didn’t say wait. But for long term and stability, it should be part of the solution. It’s issues are those of an industry competing with fossil fuels. With governments fully supporting the industry instead of hindering it for the fossil folks under various guises, it needn’t be as cumbersome.
billdietrich1 t1_ja34kk0 wrote
No, nuclear inherently is a complex, ponderous, costly technology. Unless there's a major breakthrough and someone invents fusion-direct-to-electricity, no steam plant involved, nuclear will dwindle and become niche.
dalumbr t1_ja5m0ye wrote
>fusion-direct-to-electricity
That's what Helion is doing, planned for the end of 2024 to be fully productive, from running consistently at 10% as of December 2022
billdietrich1 t1_ja70mdd wrote
I think they're still at the "demonstrating that we can heat and contain plasma" stage, not any kind of energy production.
tickleMyBigPoop t1_ja3qqo5 wrote
>Nuclear is losing the cost competition, and every trend line says the gap will get worse
Purely due to over burdensome regulatory compliance. Also solar costs don’t count in battery storage usually.
billdietrich1 t1_ja3s1aw wrote
> Purely due to over burdensome regulatory compliance.
No, it's happening even in countries which are VERY much in favor of nuclear.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220112-france-s-new-generation-nuclear-plant-delayed-again
tickleMyBigPoop t1_ja5y1t9 wrote
France has a Paradox of increasing costs in Asia nuclear costs are going down
pinkfootthegoose t1_ja3wdiz wrote
the nuclear industry blames burdensome regulations and protesters as a convenient straw man to beat. No commercial nuclear plant has ever turned a actual profit. ever.
edit: word
tickleMyBigPoop t1_ja5xjz7 wrote
pinkfootthegoose t1_ja61084 wrote
Sorry, don't know German and the translate did a pretty poor job of converting the PDF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_plants
pinkfootthegoose t1_ja61r2v wrote
I think this link has another link has a small abstract of what you sent me in English.
says that average of 5 billion euro loss per plant.
might be the same but in English?? https://www.diw.de/documents/publikationen/73/diw_01.c.670578.de/dwr-19-30.pdf
aquarain t1_ja39dfu wrote
In addition to the cost, and that nuclear promises have always been false, those new reactors use fuel made only in Russia.
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