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BigSailBoat1 t1_je5fyev wrote

Unpopular opinion: unions promote mediocrity

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Tyre_blanket t1_je5h4es wrote

Yup. Unions had their time. And that time has long past.

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TehGuard t1_je5hhvw wrote

How so? We can presently see protections that unions gave us being eroded like children working laws.

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BigSailBoat1 t1_je5mys7 wrote

You talking about the youth hiring act of 2023 ? It allows teenagers that are 14-15 the ability to get a job. No one is forcing anybody to work. It is just opening the way for teenagers that want to work to be able to get a job without the government having to give permission.

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TehGuard t1_je5nral wrote

It allows companies to take advantage. It stipulates anybody 16-18 doesn't need an ID to get a job and 14-15 year olds just need parental permission. Aka, no official way to prove how old a kid actually is. This comes months after multiple meat packing plants were caught employing 12-15 year olds. We are going to hear many many more accounts of kids working jobs they should not once in effect.

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BigSailBoat1 t1_je5t6ro wrote

šŸ„± no oneā€™s forcing them to be there. They want to work. Why is this so difficult to understand?

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TehGuard t1_je5u2ww wrote

Nobody forced children to be coal miners or to work on dangerous factory jobs last century either and many died as a result. Is that what you want to go back to?

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--A3-- t1_je5u9q6 wrote

This is your brain on union busting: "I'm okay with expanding the extent to which a business can use child labor."

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BigSailBoat1 t1_je5vwuw wrote

I am OK with teenagers that are 14+ that want to work to be able to get a job in a safe work environment. Having a job is a good thing, and being able to work from a young age helps teens to learn social skills, develop responsibility, manage money, and understand personal finance.

And I am also OK with businesses, being proactive against unionization in order to prevent mediocrity in the workplace, higher labor costs, slower rates of advancement for excelling employees, unnecessary lawsuits, slower rates of company growth ,etc.

Have a great and fantastic day everybody

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--A3-- t1_je5xzjc wrote

If they understood personal finance, they would know that the best thing they could do right now is focus on getting a good education. Not only is education itself important to becoming a well-rounded member of society, but when primary education falls to the wayside because you want to make child-level wages today, you are likely dooming yourself to a lifetime of low-wage replaceable blue collar work.

Loose child labor laws rely on the fact that many children do not yet know this. Employers find it much easier to take advantage of kids who don't know their rights, feel intimidated to speak up, and accept lower wages because $7.25 per hour seems like a lot to a kid.

It's fascinating how you're so deeply invested in other conspiracies, yet you cannot see that the biggest supporters of union busting and child labor are greedy elites who want to screw the people over so that they can make more profit.

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Iwantmyflag t1_je7fwwy wrote

I can't believe Apple is petty enough to send several paid shills to a reddit thread. Yet here we are.

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--A3-- t1_je5tbk1 wrote

The only people who think this are the companies' managers, HR, and of course owners.

There is a direct correlation between the decline in labor union participation rates and the shrinking of the middle class. There is so much data to show that emplpyees represented by a union are better compensated for the hours that they work. Countries with strong unions enjoy much better labor protections and benefits than workers in the US get.

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