The original NYT article pissed me off so much. I actually yelled out loud when he went giddy over China's 996 policy. (9 to 9, 6 days a week.)

I keep seeing article after article talking about how awful remote work is, but almost every study shows it increases productivity and life satisfaction. These assholes really can't handle their "lessers" gaining even a tiny bit more autonomy.

I don't owe these guys a god damn thing. I wish they'd stop acting like I do.

Every time one of these CEO's opens their mouths on almost any topic, all they do is demonstrate how utterly out of touch they are with at least 90% of the population. So much so, I think they're intentional rallying cries for other corporate pukes to unify against the people they exploit. They're trying to control the narrative and generate talking points for their various bought-and-paid-for media outlets to repeat ad nauseum.

In regards to Silicon Valley/San Francisco specifically it's due to the long commute times. 90 min commutes mean wasting 3 hours per day in traffic. This makes an 8 hour workday into a 11'er, 12 with a lunch break. Most people won't tolerate that unless the money is really good, which it increasingly isn't. This is caused by a supply problem, there's not enough transit and physical mobility in the region, and this problem will persist through the end of the decade.

We can talk about Office-or-not all day but the plain fact is, if the Office is completely divorced from your community and not involved in your personal life in any way then you have no commitment to it. Workers are isolated from their physical workspaces and even the products they create, to the point where they'd rather quit than subject themselves to such a dehumanizing, alien experience. Which follows as it's only human nature to want some amount of control over our daily routines.

To have a serious discussion about Office-ing, the Office and areas around it have to be desirable. If they aren't, it's over. The same problem vexes industrial workers who are just told to eat it, and largely do because they didn't finish college. These are also the people most likely to replace former Office jobs, presuming companies can't find a machine to do it better.

It’s about greed and control. Why don’t they do a piece about why CEOs continue to get richer, the companies make more profits and none of that goes back ti the employees in any meaningful way? Or that Google executive who was against WFH but then decided to move to New Zealand for a year and fly back once in awhile.

No, let’s focus on the working mom who wants to avoid a 1.5 hour commute and be home in time to pickup their kid.

Jerks.

I live on a tropical island, ain’t no way I’m going back to an office

Imagine having your entire head as far up your ass as Benioff or Rattner. Geniuses they are not.

Ironically, the higher their pay scale the less they are in the office, in my experience. So they have their cake and eat it too.

Honestly even then, what is an extra $50,000 a year even going to do for me? I don’t not want more money, but if I have to go from spending exactly 40 hours a week on working, to nearly 60 working, getting ready and commuting, I’ll never have time to enjoy that money. I don’t even have the time or energy to use the money I’m already making at 40 hours a week from home.

I’ll come into the office 3 days a week for 4 hours a day if you pay me the same and don’t expect me to do any other work at home. That would be a meaningful positive change in my life.

Why are they so determined that we peons be as miserable as they can possibly make us?

Headline reads like a light novel title. (I read the article and have nothing to say about it.)

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I had a gun flashed at me by some maniac who apparently thought i was going to slow and in his way. This is why i like remote work. I dont like getting to the office wishing i had brought my pistol on my commute, and having my entire vibe and mood for the day ruined. I promise im not very productive nor helpful when im in my “everyones an asshole” mode

Psychopaths don’t care.

Stop expecting that shaming them or spotlighting them will work. It will never work.

Government and Representation.

Benioff looks like a big fat disgusting lard ass, and I hope a heart attack takes him soon. (but it won't be soon enough)

Gas companies not making as much money

Car sales are down

Restaurants aren't getting as much business

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The only thing remote work is bad for... is lining the pockets of rich assholes and making CEO bonuses higher.

It's nice to live in a small town, in a small country, where everything is small. My commute is 10 minutes by car, with zero congestion. Or in the summertime, 6 minutes by motorcycle. Speeding? Me? Why, I never.

But yeah, capitalism is a shithole that has been completely taken over by the rich. They've even taken over the legislative machine openly; Chevron recently successfully prosecuted and jailed a lawyer for annoying them. Yes, Chevron. Not the US. Chevron bought the whole prosecution and paid the lawyers and judge, and the SCOTUS just upheld that.

Clearly, since Rat-tner is familiar with Keynes and his predictions that we'd work way less with the same productivity, he's knowingly screwing everybody. Because 90% of all jobs are bullshit, that exist only to service the consumption machine. We may consume more than ever, but people sure aren't happy, and they're stressed out of their minds. In America, literally; the amount of mass shootings is in the thousands.

So yeah, it's capitalism or us, and capitalism is winning.

Do what I do (assuming you already have a job and get random recruiter calls). Tell them a rate higher than you're currently getting, and that's your remote rate. Your on-site rate is $100k/year more. That will put an end to things if everyone does it.

We should all be working much less than we are with all the technology we have. A 15 hour work week sounds about right. https://youtu.be/7EhICK_GL8k

OP really hits the nail on the head, CEO's whine whilst wages have been completely outstripped by inflation. So here we are taking multiple jobs or finding ways to reduce our expenses (like not commuting).

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Says the exec who has a corner office, with a door that closes, with a small army of assistants, who has a limo that picks them up outside, that takes them to a private jet, to one of their many homes, in the Bahamas, managing their multiple businesses, while working 4 hours a day - remotely.

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My wife is a senior director over contracting for Sams Club. The problem I observed in her dealings with her team during WFH was that people didn’t work consistently, and were constantly having tech issues, or at least were using tech issues as an excuse to get out of work. They’re hybrid now, and are in office 2 1/2 days a week. Tuesday, Thursday, and half a day Friday.

I myself am a licensed master electrician (I own my own company) who works mostly on the residential construction side of things. I’ve never had the pleasure of working from home except to do my payroll every week. My job is hands on, on location. I personally think all you folks who don’t want to go to the office are a bunch of whiny crybabies.