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DaemonAnts t1_jec6i4d wrote

Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.

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marketrent OP t1_jec4vqv wrote

Excerpt from the linked content^1 by Sean Hollister, about an allegation that Google may have trained Bard with ChatGPT data, sometime before yesterday:

>Google’s Bard hasn’t exactly had an impressive debut — and The Information is reporting that the company is so interested in changing the fortunes of its AI chatbots, it’s forcing its DeepMind division to help the Google Brain team beat OpenAI with a new initiative called Gemini.

>The Information’s report also contains the potentially staggering thirdhand allegation that Google stooped so low as to train Bard using data from OpenAI’s ChatGPT, scraped from a website called ShareGPT. A former Google AI researcher reportedly spoke out against using that data, according to the publication.

>But Google is firmly and clearly denying the data is used: “Bard is not trained on any data from ShareGPT or ChatGPT,” spokesperson Chris Pappas tells The Verge.

>Pappas declined to answer whether Google had ever used ChatGPT data to train Bard in the past. “Unfortunately, all I can share is our statement from yesterday,” he says.

>According to The Information’s reporting, a Google AI engineer named Jacob Devlin left Google to immediately join its rival OpenAI after attempting to warn Google not to use that ChatGPT data because it would violate OpenAI’s terms of service, and that its answers would look too similar.

^1 Sean Hollister for The Verge/Vox Media, 30 Mar. 2023, https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/29/23662621/google-bard-chatgpt-sharegpt-training-denies

^2 Alphabet’s Google and DeepMind pause grudges, join forces to chase OpenAI, Jon Victor and Amir Efrati for The Information, 29 Mar. 2023, https://www.theinformation.com/articles/alphabets-google-and-deepmind-pause-grudges-join-forces-to-chase-openai

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_sfhk t1_jedmimk wrote

>Google AI engineer named Jacob Devlin left Google to immediately join its rival OpenAI

How is this a credible source?

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Responsible_Hawk8015 t1_jec79mr wrote

I think google uses chatGPT, but honestly, they have so much data to train on I dont believe its necessary

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emotionalfescue t1_jeclddt wrote

Looks like we can expect lawsuits and recriminations between chatbot service providers and original content owners on the one hand, and chatbot services and AI-consuming publishers and content providers (including hybrid chatbots) on the other.

Unfortunately for the lawyers, a lot of the research and writing of briefs for these cases might be turned over to ChatGPT.

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autotldr t1_jed7k6m wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)


> The Information's report also contains the potentially staggering thirdhand allegation that Google stooped so low as to train Bard using data from OpenAI's ChatGPT, scraped from a website called ShareGPT. A former Google AI researcher reportedly spoke out against using that data, according to the publication.

> According to The Information's reporting, a Google AI engineer named Jacob Devlin left Google to immediately join its rival OpenAI after attempting to warn Google not to use that ChatGPT data because it would violate OpenAI's terms of service, and that its answers would look too similar.

> Update March 30th, 2:02PM ET: Google would not answer a follow-up question about whether it had previously used ChatGPT data form Bard, only that Bard "Isn't trained on data from ChatGPT or ShareGPT.".


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Leboski t1_jecewqn wrote

Isn't PR speak great? The spokesperson only stated that it "is not trained" which doesn't give us a lot of information because it could very well have been trained sometime before. The Verge's editor dropped the ball with the misleading headline.

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