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Crimbobimbobippitybo OP t1_jdssr1n wrote

When asked for comment the minister for social media simply replied, >!"You gotta pay the troll toll to get into the boy's soul, you gotta pay the troll toll to get in."!<


matorin57 t1_jdtcfbm wrote

This article did not really present evidence that it is worse in china like it claimed other then just some hand waving of "collectivist culture makes not normal people get bullied" which seems like the author kind of just made up. Like the stories of bulliying are sad and all but I do kinda of feel focusing on it's "uniqueness to china" is very misleading and just wrong.


Mist_Rising t1_jdtrwoo wrote

Assuming the data is equal, which it probably isn't, 40% (4 in 10) would put it slightly higher then India at 38 reported, and way higher than say, US 25%.


Samuraispirits t1_jdtw8gx wrote

It's funny how it's the 20th anniversary of the war in Iraq and many people in hindsight say they wouldn't support the war after the fact meanwhile the war drums seem to hunger again.

Makes me think of this quote.

>“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence.
>If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative.
>If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology.
>If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom.
>A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
>If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves.
>How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained.
>What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

-Michael Parenti 


zazz1337 t1_jdxb4ft wrote

What the fuck are you talking about lmao. Unreal.


DAlmighty t1_jdtgy03 wrote

_A poll of more than 2,000 social media users in China found that about four in 10 respondents have experienced some form of online abuse.”

I’m very sure this is an underrepresented statistic. From what I’ve seen, if you don’t fit in the masses box of conformity, the straight up hate and abuse gets pretty bad. Calling this behavior trolling is putting things very nicely.


simplescalar t1_jdu95bi wrote

Don't worry this happens on reddit as well. It's less of a China thing and more of a human thing...


DAlmighty t1_jduqof7 wrote

You might be right to a point. There’s a lot of bad intentions here on Reddit, but on the Chinese apps some comments are far worse than anything that I’ve seen here by no small margin.


simplescalar t1_jduqyg8 wrote

can you give an example?


DAlmighty t1_jdur7uk wrote

I have a friend who’s married to a black guy and she posted very innocent pictures, and some of the comments would be enough to get the FBI involved it were here in the US.


Crimbobimbobippitybo OP t1_jdvjtaq wrote

You can't tell people to harm themselves here, brigade them, harass them, and so on, without recourse.

You can do just that in China.


nerdaholic360 t1_jdz09v5 wrote

Then you don't know about Daneland. Stochastic terroristic network started on Tiktok and they go in on suicidal people because they never face consequences

Worse? At least 25% are healthcare providers

Reporting to their licensing board often resulted in no consequences for them, then they'd do the same back to me and I'd be under investigation.

It's getting harder to do the right thing because the courts are a puppet for corporations. If they know they can use cyberstalking and harassment as a tactic, they will.


czl t1_jdujr54 wrote

Is this a study to support having a central government "protect" you from online abuse? Might such government proffered "protection" be a bigger problem than the problem it claims to solve?


autotldr t1_jdtj7t1 wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)

> A poll of more than 2,000 social media users in China found that about four in 10 respondents have experienced some form of online abuse.

> Her death is the latest in a string of deaths that have been linked to online bullying in China.

> &quot;China has robust technological tools for monitoring online content. More of those resources should be redirected toward curbing cyberbullying. should not condone the culture of fostering online &#039;hate campaigns&#039;,&quot; says Jonathan Sullivan, a China specialist and political scientist at the University of Nottingham.

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MightyH20 t1_jdub3xm wrote

Combined with living in an authoritarian/dictatorial system of oppression would make be depressed as well.