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matorin57 t1_jdtcfbm wrote

This article did not really present evidence that it is worse in china like it claimed other then just some hand waving of "collectivist culture makes not normal people get bullied" which seems like the author kind of just made up. Like the stories of bulliying are sad and all but I do kinda of feel focusing on it's "uniqueness to china" is very misleading and just wrong.


Mist_Rising t1_jdtrwoo wrote

Assuming the data is equal, which it probably isn't, 40% (4 in 10) would put it slightly higher then India at 38 reported, and way higher than say, US 25%.


Samuraispirits t1_jdtw8gx wrote

It's funny how it's the 20th anniversary of the war in Iraq and many people in hindsight say they wouldn't support the war after the fact meanwhile the war drums seem to hunger again.

Makes me think of this quote.

>“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence.
>If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative.
>If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology.
>If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom.
>A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
>If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves.
>How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained.
>What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

-Michael Parenti 


zazz1337 t1_jdxb4ft wrote

What the fuck are you talking about lmao. Unreal.