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[deleted] t1_iu4s6e1 wrote

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squee30000 t1_iu4vxdv wrote

Ah yes, how shortsighted of us. We should put these things in the same category

Sex is a natural part of life, and some people are even able to gamble in moderation, but no one has ever practiced Antisemitism in healthy moderation.

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[deleted] t1_iu4w7qc wrote

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thatfreshjive t1_iu56629 wrote

The right is absolutely antisemitic - and the USA is not, and was never intend to be a Christian nation.

"One Nation, Under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance in the 1950s.

Sit down, child.

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[deleted] t1_iu56ley wrote

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thatfreshjive t1_iu58226 wrote

See, that's the difference between our politics. I say the right is antisemitic, and you are personally insulted. I didn't call you antisemitic, I called the party you support antisemitic.

Conservatives seem to believe that all criticism of their party, is a personal attack - and that's the purpose of propaganda.

I don't give a shit about the democratic party, I just the smartest, and least evil, politicians in office.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu58g50 wrote

The left is constantly shitting on rightwingers on a personal level. Dont give me that shit.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5qd7v wrote

Well, of course we're shitting on you - you want to take away freedom from people you disagree with. But we don't actively hate you. The left doesn't gloat about hurting people who are different.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5sll7 wrote

If you cared about values, you wouldn't have voted for Trump. You care about sticking to people you've never met, because Tucker Carlson said "They think you're better than you! They're trying take away your way of life!"

That's a lie. You are being manipulated. If you were really a Christian, you would want a better life for strangers. But you aren't

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Miora t1_iu864ny wrote

Rightly so. You guys are kinda fucked up.

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moosemasher t1_iu57byw wrote

Sure ain't the left claiming him, or chiming in with extra antisemitism to add to his.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu57vlj wrote

A small group of extremists doesnt speak for the entire right.

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moosemasher t1_iu59625 wrote

The entire right certainly seems to have a problem getting rid of the 'small' group of extremists.

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Tristanna t1_iu5gte4 wrote

They do speak for the entire right because the leadership does not active condemn, censure or otherwise shun them.

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Miora t1_iu8631o wrote

Oh, so we're lying today?

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roox911 t1_iu57ao4 wrote

You're correct. Some are anti black, anti brown, anti woman, anti immigrant, anti LGBT. But let's be honest here, the majority are at least "anti-one of those things".

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Trgdor32 t1_iu57m50 wrote

If this is what you think then you havent been in an actual rightwing community before. When all you see is the extremists then naturally this is your conclusion.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu58yc3 wrote

ROFL - it isn't a clue to you that conservatives need a separate community to discuss their thoughts?

You snowflakes isolate yourselves from anyone who disagrees. There are no "left-wing" communities, because politics aren't our identity.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu599r5 wrote

And yet here you are defending the left like your life depends on it....

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5dgvp wrote

Nope, it's just always interesting to talk to conservatives. They never want to contribute anything of substance to a conversation, just complain.

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xavis t1_iu58a3y wrote

considering the party is 100% behind trump, the definition of extremist, i think hes right. unless you kick trump out of your party, im inclined to include you in that category too.

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roox911 t1_iu594fl wrote

Bingo. They drop Trump (and his politics/ political style) and I'll consider them to be a (distasteful) alternative party again.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu58u6x wrote

It always comes back to Trump. I liked a lot of what he did and disagreed with some of what he did too. No I wont outright renounce him but then thats just it. No president is perfect. Should I be saying you have to renounce Obama or youre an extremist?

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xavis t1_iu5a7u2 wrote

if obama started a coup as a childish temper trantrum because he lost an election, then sure.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu5bhb8 wrote

Huge groups of left winger outright rioted for 6 months straight that summer...rioted. like deaths and fires galore kind of rioted. Literal burning people alive and chucking bricks at cops kind of rioted. 6 months of that.

1 out of control group doesnt make it a coup regardless of all the shit politicians trying their hardest to call it that.

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xavis t1_iu5h418 wrote

>Huge groups of left winger outright rioted for 6 months straight that summer...rioted. like deaths and fires galore kind of rioted. Literal burning people alive and chucking bricks at cops kind of rioted. 6 months of that.

>1 out of control group doesnt make it a coup regardless of all the shit politicians trying their hardest to call it that.

well thanks for making my point for me, good own goal there.

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Vogelsten t1_iub04pc wrote

The vast majority of anything that could be considered a riot was committed by right wing agent provocateurs. You are believing hyperbolic nonsense from known and proven propagandists because it agrees with the victim complex that the right wing has perpetuated.

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roox911 t1_iu58wrv wrote

I live in rural Florida... in a county that voted over 75% conservative. I have 8 DeSantis and Trump flags between my 3 neighbors houses. And over a dozen on my block of 8 houses. I am literally in the epicenter of right wing community.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu59614 wrote

Youre in the epicenter of 1 of many right wing communities. Go visit utah and youll get a vastly different vibe from them. Its the same difference between cali dems and colorado dems.

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roox911 t1_iu5a12a wrote

Before this I lived in Arkansas. More of the same. Before that was Vancouver, Washington, more of the same.

Are all cons bad people? Nope. Does it pull in a massive swath of racist garbage human beings? Yup. and if you're still a conservative after Trump and all that has happened... well, good luck getting me or anyone to belive you're not on the same side as the bad ones at this stage.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu5aap3 wrote

Are you sure what you heard was actual racism? I get told by left wingers that Im somehow racist if I say illegal immigration is out of control.

Guess Im asking whats your baseline for calling someone racist?

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roox911 t1_iu5bsor wrote

You're right.. I'm probably to stupid to understand the difference between racism and nuanced political debate.

Actual racism is pretty easy to spot mate. As is ignorance, and blind adherence to a party that invites and welcomes racists

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le1mmortal t1_iu5afxl wrote

Dude I grew up in utah it’s not any different; from the suburbs where people keep their racism more polite and secretive to the rural areas where you’ll get shot at for having a Black Lives Matter sticker on your car

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dlev_ t1_iu5i21t wrote

Bro what rock have you lived under the last 10 years

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thexbreak t1_iu54jv7 wrote

Conservatism is brain cancer

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Trgdor32 t1_iu55wz8 wrote

This bullshit dick measuring is the real cancer

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kazmerb t1_iu5bbf5 wrote

Conservatism has directly led to acts of violence against gays, democrats, liberals, and transgender people. So no conservatism is a fucking brain cancer, and it causes people to lash out violently like primitive little apes.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu5bw9j wrote

Ah so the literal riots a few years back during the george floyd fiasco wasnt an act of violence against the communities they occured in?

Before you start on it yes they were riots. People died and buildings burned over them.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu55gun wrote

Don't be a flacid penis. Both sides, of American politics, are NOT morally equivalent.

No where close.

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roox911 t1_iu57srh wrote

I did, just yesterday. she was worried that the blacks (used a far worse term) were going to come and rape her and would only accept a white electrician in her home.

This was a new one for me, but certainly in the same lane as a large proportion of how conversations seem to go down here in conservative-ville USA.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu589x4 wrote

What a bizzare encounter. No that is not the entire right....

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thatfreshjive t1_iu57g3z wrote

Oh, I have. They just don't have anything of substance to contribute. Literally nothing of value to contribute to society.

You support the Republican party, because they've convinced you that liberals are evil.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu584v1 wrote

No I support the right because the left makes decisions I dont agree with and the right has more ideas in line with my views. Simple as that.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5rwiw wrote

And that's where the problem is - politics is about society as a WHOLE, not about how YOU feel. The entire republican platform is "own the libs". Government is supposed to work for EVERYONE - otherwise, it has no purpose. Corporations don't need government, PEOPLE do. You AND I.

Since the data first started getting recorded, the economy has been significantly better under Democratic presidents, for example.

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/309cc8e1-b971-45c6-ab52-29ffb1da9bf5/jec-fact-sheet---the-economy-under-democratic-vs.-republican-presidents-june-2016.pdf

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5a28j wrote

And you don't care about the world around you, or learning new things.

Your faith is the answer for anything you don't know, and outlets like Fox, Newsmax, Breitbart - serve you groups of people to hate, and the world seems smaller and more manageable.

It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses - the door-to-door isn't actually about recruiting, it's to teach members that outsiders are mean, and evil, but the church is family. It's safer with them.

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5al8v wrote

Liberals don't need safe spaces - we understand the world around us gets better if we all work together.

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Trgdor32 t1_iu5avll wrote

Lotta assumptions in your comment there...

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thatfreshjive t1_iu5e895 wrote

Parler, Truth Social, etc - One statement, one fact, zero assumptions.

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