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PoorPDOP86 t1_iu67tyc wrote

Reply to comment by jphamlore in E.U. plans for only electric new vehicles by 2035 ‘without precedent’ by do_you_even_ship_bro

Yeah, take the bus and the train commoner. That's the solution. Environmental Classism. Basically the roads will become the future version of the Moscow Ring with your betters in the new fangled ZiL Lanes, know your role and your place for the good of Mother Earth peasants.

I'm obviously exaggerating but not an awful lot.

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Cutecumber_Roll t1_iu6c0sx wrote

"A developed nation is not a place where the poor own cars, but where the rich use public transportation."

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Yotsubato t1_iu6ihpf wrote

If the transit is like that in Japan, Sweden, Germany, sure. If it’s like NYC, SF, LA. Nope.

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crazicus t1_iu6l9qh wrote

Public transit is perfectly usable in NYC and SF, and in a lot of other cities too. Here in Boston, a third of households don’t even own a car

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Cutecumber_Roll t1_iu7esnk wrote

New York has the best public transit in the US and it's still mediocre compared to the the rest of the world.

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crazicus t1_iu7h24i wrote

This honestly just feels like an excuse. NYC’s system is perfectly usable and one of the few in the world with 24/7 runtime. Every transit system has its issues, those in the US especially, but it works.

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rastilin t1_iu69qxe wrote

I know you're being sarcastic, but I'm super ok with your horrific dystopian future.

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crazicus t1_iu6foun wrote

Cars are already “environmental classism”. Poor people are much less likely to own a car, and much more likely to be negatively impacted by cars. Freeways are built through lower income neighborhoods, busy streets go through the same, killing poorer people at disproportionate rates, and poorer people are more likely to feel the impacts of climate change.

Not to mention that even among poor people who do drive, transportation is a much larger percentage of their budget than richer people due to the high cost of car ownership. Parking mandates also raise the price of homes and goods, passed along to poor people that don’t own cars.

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