Submitted by Hyperion1144 t3_yia0sy in technology
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Substantial_Boiler t1_iuhuxu1 wrote
If you're looking for actual gaming performance, this phone is not for you
burningscarlet t1_iuhwgry wrote
That's kind of the problem, since I like everything else about the phone
Substantial_Boiler t1_iuhx890 wrote
Same here, along with the terrible fingerprint scanner. I'll stick to my S22U and S21U for now
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ItchyAcnestis t1_iui9sao wrote
Why are you gaming on a phone? Lol
burningscarlet t1_iuj2sbh wrote
Cause I work a shitty job that doesn't let me use laptops and the commute home means I barely get time in front of a computer. At least nowadays phones have games I can play for a couple of minutes at a time like Wild Rift, LoR, Genshin and etc on the way home in the train.
Mobile gaming gets a bad rep but I enjoy it. Isn't that reason enough?
opelit t1_iujxow4 wrote
Get Switch Lite, love it, and you will probably love it too. Nintendo games have some kind of magic.
Hyperion1144 OP t1_iuiscvd wrote
Maybe not every flagship phone is good at the same things, or caters to the same market?
I never play games, but I wanted the closest thing I could find to a god-camera. This fits the bill. I'm glad it does.
I don't want to pay another $300-$500+ for features I won't use.
It's like complaining that the off-road and towing capabilities of the Toyota Prius are terrible... When it literally doesn't cater to that market and never intended to.
Complaining about the towing capacity of the Prius doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the Prius. It means there's something wrong with the complainer.
burningscarlet t1_iuj1su5 wrote
That's such a stupid argument. Flagship phones are already good at playing games by virtue of having flagship chips. I'd understand if you said you needed to sacrifice some things in order to make gaming work but the fact of the matter is that Google promised, and I quote:
>"Google itself has disclosed key design elements of the Pixel 7," said Avi Greengart, founder and lead analyst at Techsponential. "So the real surprises will come in terms of new software and details on the Tensor 2’s power, efficiency and any unique attributes."
They said they would make up for it by making the tensor chip not just efficient, but also at least competitive in terms of power. And yes, the pixel 7 series battery is a marked step up from the pixel 6 line, which was just bad.
But as per GSMArena's review, it manages a 96h standby time, which is really good, but still beaten by so many other phones with comparable battery capacities like the ASUS Zenfone 9 with 108h standby time which is ALSO running the Snapdragon and is just faster.
Performance on the Tensor G2 is literally almost the same in Genshin Impact as a Exynos 2100, a chip which was infamous in the community for being bad, IN THE SAMSUNG S21 that almost came out two years ago!
One can argue that the TPU's in the chip are worth it, but was it really worth having a chip perform at the subpar range of a subpar chip that came out 2 years ago for... Magic eraser and perfect diction??? The killer feature of the Pixel line is the camera, and that has always been good, all the way back since the pixel line was introduced.
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TL:DR; is Google wanted to pull and Apple and control the manufacturing process from chip to hardware to save money, and we're left with a phone that leaves a shit ton of performance on the table for "magic eraser" and "perfect diction" features. Google can still make amazing cameras without the Tensor, so it feels like a step backwards.
Your analogy literally isn't comparable. A closer comparison would be taking the engine out of a Prius and then sticking it into a Ferrari with a modern dashboard. Cause the engine is shit but the outside is pretty and the dashboard is futuristic and nice.
Edit: Also, your price analogy is also horrible. You're already paying a premium for the Pixel brand, it's lot like they passed on the savings to the consumer after moving to their own chips. You're still paying full price for LESS power.
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bigfatmatt01 t1_iuji2je wrote
It's not about the games not running fast. Its about google saying it would and not meeting that promise. People don't like being lied to. People don't like when you set an expectation and give them something else.
Hyperion1144 OP t1_iujmz41 wrote
I paid $600 for a Pixel 7 Pro, taking into account the $300 credit I got for a phone I originally paid $240 for.
With the $60 difference between the credit vs the actual original cost for my old phone, I actually paid $540... for a flagship phone that I walked out of the store with when it wasn't even out for a week.
$540 is $60 less than a OnePlus 9 Pro, and only $90 more than a OnePlus 9.
I actually scored pretty hard.
bigfatmatt01 t1_iujqwe6 wrote
I don't disagree with you. I was just trying to clarify the source of the anger.
PCGT3 t1_iui3hvi wrote
This might be an acceptable answer if their chip offered great efficiency/battery life.
Hyperion1144 OP t1_iuirth2 wrote
It doesn't? My Pixel 7 Pro idles at almost nothing. I thought the complaints were about the power draw of the screen, especially at high brightness.
DBDude t1_iui4857 wrote
This is only their second generation of chip, and pretty good considering that. Shouldn't think that they'd be close to the latest iPhone chip.
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yaosio t1_iui44qx wrote
It's the kid saying they were just practicing so it doesn't count.
Neutral-President t1_iuhq2b7 wrote
Why did they name their processor after a bandage?
big_throwaway_piano t1_iuhqzl4 wrote
Tensor is basically a 3D matrix.
Neutral-President t1_iuhr5n5 wrote
That’s cute and very science-y, but 99% of consumers are going to think their phone has a band-aid inside it.
themeatbridge t1_iuhrce3 wrote
I've never heard if a tensor band aid.
Solid_Spinach_206 t1_iuhvxtb wrote
We have no idea what you’re talking about
big_throwaway_piano t1_iuhsp6f wrote
People joked iPads sound like a product for female hygiene
rocketwidget t1_iuhw95g wrote
My guess is the average consumer doesn't know the brand name of the SoC in their phone.
It might be close to 99% of people who post in /r/technology , but this is a hugely skewed sample of the population.
mithik t1_iui8uci wrote
Necer heard of tensor band aid, however tensor in math was taught about in middle school
Substantial_Boiler t1_iuhvfcd wrote
It was probably named after a PU called Tensor, developed by Google to accelerate AI models and workflows. Since the new Pixels and it's new chips focus on AI to help the user, they named it Tensor
burningscarlet t1_iuhrj6c wrote
I mean, that's great and all Google, but I'd like to actually play games at high settings without throttling.
Honestly still copium that Sony releases a PSPhone one day