Hyperion1144 OP t1_iuiscvd wrote on October 31, 2022 at 5:23 PM

Reply to comment by burningscarlet in Google says it's 'very comfortable' with Tensor not winning benchmarks by Hyperion1144

Maybe not every flagship phone is good at the same things, or caters to the same market?

I never play games, but I wanted the closest thing I could find to a god-camera. This fits the bill. I'm glad it does.

I don't want to pay another $300-$500+ for features I won't use.

It's like complaining that the off-road and towing capabilities of the Toyota Prius are terrible... When it literally doesn't cater to that market and never intended to.

Complaining about the towing capacity of the Prius doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the Prius. It means there's something wrong with the complainer.

burningscarlet t1_iuj1su5 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 6:25 PM

That's such a stupid argument. Flagship phones are already good at playing games by virtue of having flagship chips. I'd understand if you said you needed to sacrifice some things in order to make gaming work but the fact of the matter is that Google promised, and I quote:

>"Google itself has disclosed key design elements of the Pixel 7," said Avi Greengart, founder and lead analyst at Techsponential. "So the real surprises will come in terms of new software and details on the Tensor 2’s power, efficiency and any unique attributes."

They said they would make up for it by making the tensor chip not just efficient, but also at least competitive in terms of power. And yes, the pixel 7 series battery is a marked step up from the pixel 6 line, which was just bad.

But as per GSMArena's review, it manages a 96h standby time, which is really good, but still beaten by so many other phones with comparable battery capacities like the ASUS Zenfone 9 with 108h standby time which is ALSO running the Snapdragon and is just faster.

Performance on the Tensor G2 is literally almost the same in Genshin Impact as a Exynos 2100, a chip which was infamous in the community for being bad, IN THE SAMSUNG S21 that almost came out two years ago!

One can argue that the TPU's in the chip are worth it, but was it really worth having a chip perform at the subpar range of a subpar chip that came out 2 years ago for... Magic eraser and perfect diction??? The killer feature of the Pixel line is the camera, and that has always been good, all the way back since the pixel line was introduced.

TL:DR; is Google wanted to pull and Apple and control the manufacturing process from chip to hardware to save money, and we're left with a phone that leaves a shit ton of performance on the table for "magic eraser" and "perfect diction" features. Google can still make amazing cameras without the Tensor, so it feels like a step backwards.

Your analogy literally isn't comparable. A closer comparison would be taking the engine out of a Prius and then sticking it into a Ferrari with a modern dashboard. Cause the engine is shit but the outside is pretty and the dashboard is futuristic and nice.

Edit: Also, your price analogy is also horrible. You're already paying a premium for the Pixel brand, it's lot like they passed on the savings to the consumer after moving to their own chips. You're still paying full price for LESS power.

[deleted] t1_iujdu7z wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:46 PM

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bigfatmatt01 t1_iuji2je wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:14 PM

It's not about the games not running fast. Its about google saying it would and not meeting that promise. People don't like being lied to. People don't like when you set an expectation and give them something else.

Hyperion1144 OP t1_iujmz41 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:48 PM

I paid $600 for a Pixel 7 Pro, taking into account the $300 credit I got for a phone I originally paid $240 for.

With the $60 difference between the credit vs the actual original cost for my old phone, I actually paid $540... for a flagship phone that I walked out of the store with when it wasn't even out for a week.

$540 is $60 less than a OnePlus 9 Pro, and only $90 more than a OnePlus 9.

I actually scored pretty hard.

bigfatmatt01 t1_iujqwe6 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 9:15 PM

I don't disagree with you. I was just trying to clarify the source of the anger.