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KennyBSAT t1_iuf1wsy wrote

Reply to comment by FreedomCorn in Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally by zsreport

That's on the manufacturer and/or regulators. A thing that needs to be plugged in in order to charge is never going to be perfectly babysat in the best of situations, and if it's a tool that people use everyday it's definitely got to be built so that it is safe if left plugged in for a month or if left unplugged and discharged for a month. If you can't get that worked out, you don't have a product that's safe to sell to the general public.

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FreedomCorn t1_iuf2ghi wrote

Define “safe for the general public”

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KennyBSAT t1_iuf3aws wrote

If someone tried to save a couple dollars building a car and made one that you had to open the hood and disconnect the battery every time you were going to leave it parked overnight in order to prevent it from catching fire, that would be a car that's unsafe, the sale of which would never be allowed. If something has to be plugged in for hours, it needs to be safe to leave it plugged in for hours. Regardless of exactly when it stops charging. It's not that hard for manufacturers to build a battery and/or charging system that will shut off when it needs to so that it is safe.

The definition of safe for the general public for a given product may take a sentence or a book, but that's up to manufacturers and/or regulators to figure out and adjust for real world conditions. Clearly that's not happening.

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thisnewsight t1_iuf4n8n wrote

Example: iPhones stop charging your phone when it hits 100% and when it hits 99%, it’ll charge to full and then stop.

That’s what battery charging tech should have by default

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Safe_Indication_6829 t1_iufh7y6 wrote

you could even have the battery's internal circuitry report 99% as 100% so the device is none the wiser and won't even try and shove more into it

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wioneo t1_iufdwcf wrote

> got to be built so that it is safe if left plugged in for a month or if left unplugged and discharged for a month

That seemed like a pretty explicit definition for at least part of the requirement.

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