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jh937hfiu3hrhv9 t1_iyahyl5 wrote

Dealers have been repairing other brands since the begining of time. BFD.

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Mattjhkerr t1_iyb8219 wrote

It's a big deal when Tesla stockholders thought the only place to repair a Tesla was with Tesla.

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Lamacorn t1_iybk9um wrote

Then they clearly don’t own a Tesla or at least never needed any sort of repair because there are a fuck ton of authorized Tesla repair places other than Tesla.

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Bensemus t1_iyeinc6 wrote

It's a very common myth about Tesla that it can only be worked on at Tesla centres.

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Diegobyte t1_iyeqqp2 wrote

Teslas no dealership plan honestly sucks if you live outside a major city. There isn’t even a Tesla center in my whole state. But there are indépendant dealerships for every other manufacturer

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demwoodz t1_iyc6uqw wrote

But do they work quietly? No impact guns,Shhhhh

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LoserMotron t1_iyagkyi wrote

Here comes right to repair fights.

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MasterpieceBrave420 t1_iyaji6b wrote

It's more of an upgrade really. They probably make sure the doors won't fall off.

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amsterdamtech t1_iyamzqu wrote

breaking news: musk accused of faulty doors

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emende21 t1_iyard8e wrote

better faulty doors than.

breaking news: Tesla autopilot always strikes baby in stroller

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obviouspayphone t1_iyaxwtu wrote

Breaking News 🚨:

Faulty Tesla doors always strike babies in strollers while in Autopilot!

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be-like-water-2022 t1_iyb19xb wrote

Breaking news

Faulty Tesla autopilot not guilty because it's turn off seconds before hitting the stroller with baby.

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Bensemus t1_iyejj35 wrote

Breaking News: This is a myth spread by idiots. Tesla counts any crashes within 5 seconds, same as the government agencies.

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ScabusaurusRex t1_iybip8t wrote

Breaking news 🚨:

Faulty Tesla doors always strike Elon Musk's illegitimate babies in strollers while in Autopilot.

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Bensemus t1_iyejbhv wrote

Breaking News: Company that sells self driving software self publishes random test that shows their competitor failing. No other cars tested or even their own system. Test completely contradicts government testing in Europe and the US. Company's last test was found to be faked.

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Pelicanliver t1_iybg07y wrote

When one door closes, another door opens. Apart from that it’s a great car.

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lucimon97 t1_iyas03a wrote

I heard they now make em so no bits fall off at all. Especially not the front!

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Splice1138 t1_iyb3p6h wrote

That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point

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dont-YOLO-ragequit t1_iyaoxa1 wrote

This article explains nothing on the matter.

Does GM officially endorse and targets repairs on Teslas or are dealers(or mega dealers) using their cross manufacturer connections to get it done?

For exemple, lots of dealer networks just setup a big used car network to funnel less desirable trade ins to and use all the dealers to get parts. You come and trade in an Audi at a BMW dealer, if it is low mileage, they sent it to the Audi dealer to be certified and sold at premium in the group, if it has more mileage, it gets sent to the used car outlet who will use local car parts and parts from the Audi dealer.

In this way, a GM dealer could be seen as flipping Teslas and thus repairing them.

In an other way, customers could have figured out that it is cheaper or less time to repair to just go to a GM dealer, talk with the service advisor and get brakes, Suspension, wheels and other fast moving repairs done than to deal with the hassle of Tesla's post sale service.

Last could be that Tesla has yet to make proprietary OBD codes around their EV diagnosis and most EV techs can easily work on all EVs which, Not only GM but Nissan, Ford and others do.

All of this can be intercepted as what is being told through the grapevine.

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Bluest_waters t1_iybuq0h wrote

Tesla's secret is that it thrives on selling billions of dollars worth of carbon credits to major auto makers. Tesla is happy because they get money, the auto makers are happy because they don't have to actually produce large amounts of EV. Some years the money Tesla makes off the carbon credits represent nearly their entire profit.

So GM is quietly fixing Tesla in part because it wants Tesla to keep doing what its doing.

Problem for Tesla is that more and more major auto makers have EVs coming online and they expect their EV sales to jump. That means less demand for carbon credits, which means lower profits for Tesla. Plus Elon is going to be forced to contineu to sell Tesla stock to service his twitter debts for the foreseeable future. Both of these things will be putting downward pressure on Tesla stock months, possibly years, to come.

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sexygodzilla t1_iyc85us wrote

Honestly with the dramatic downward spiral Twitter is on I have to wonder if he ends up losing control of Tesla entirely and it ends up getting acquired.

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LiquidateGlowyAssets t1_iyckqip wrote

Inshallah it gets broken up and the actually productive parts nationalized. Their solarcity acquisition was basically a scam against their shareholders, as was the CEO using corporate assets to gamble billions of dollars on worthless cryptocurrencies.

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Bensemus t1_iyeizij wrote

For this year credits made up less than 10% of Tesla's profits. It's greatly exaggerated how much Tesla makes and relies on EV credits.

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Deyln t1_iychbq8 wrote

And it's these same not-tesla automakers that kept throwing monkey wrenches in the way to service things.

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Puzzleheaded-Cod4909 t1_iyccydc wrote

IMO, any chunk of Tesla's money they can take a bite out of, the better. At least it'll lessen the blow for people that got fooled into buying one.

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mjrmjrmjrmjrmjrmjr t1_iyb2h19 wrote

Interpreted!!!!!

Intercepted?! You think we’re taking about football here, son?!!!!

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anoldradical t1_iybfk6y wrote

Can they fix mine because I've had this damn rental for almost 2 months and I still have no clue when it'll be done

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HaikusAreMyKink t1_iyafqnv wrote

Access denied?

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Qlinkenstein t1_iybcpyf wrote

>The idea points to a critical difference between Tesla and older automakers.

>GM’s Reach Is Everywhere. Tesla’s Is Limited. Tesla doesn’t operate stores or service centers in every state.

>The company has a fleet of mobile repair units that can perform many services in owners’ driveways. But, for more complicated repairs, owners must bring their cars (or have them towed) to service centers that can be hundreds of miles away.

>Owners have complained that it’s hard to get an appointment at many, and repair prices can be high.

>Tesla can’t solve that problem quickly. The company directly owns its own sales centers, which is forbidden by law in some states.

>Traditional automakers work through networks of dealerships, which are business partners they don’t own. That leaves them splitting the profit from each sale with middlemen. But it means they can operate everywhere.

>General Motors has a network of thousands of dealerships – so many that, the company estimates, 90% of Americans live within a 10-mile drive of one.

>For some Tesla owners, getting to a nearby Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, or GMC dealership would be far simpler than working through Tesla’s complex repair network.

>Automakers Know Their Competitor’s Products Most GM dealerships now have service technicians certified to work on electric cars, with its own growing electric lineup to service.

>And most automakers know their competitors’ products intimately. They buy competitors’ vehicles for benchmark testing and study.

>There’s even an engineering company that buys most cars, dismantles them down to individual fasteners, and sells that information to the competition. Tesla knows exactly how Subaru attaches carpet in a trunk. Subaru knows how Honda’s rev-matching transmissions signal when to shift.

>And, presumably, GM knows how Tesla arranges its battery cells for cooling and can reassemble them.

>Move Puts Tesla In a Tough Spot It’s less clear how GM’s dealer network is getting access to Tesla parts. That might be a valve Tesla could close.

>But Reuss’s offhand announcement puts Tesla in a public relations bind. The company could tighten parts distribution to try to make it more difficult for GM, and other non-Tesla repair shops, to work on its cars.

>But that risks the ire of owners who just found out they have closer service options than they knew.

>So Tesla has a choice: let its owners walk around GM showrooms looking at new GM electric cars while GM fixes their broken Tesla, or choke off the parts supply and leave some owners resentful that they’re left towing their car to another state for repair.

>“This is why Tesla is now investing millions to replicate the brick-and-mortar service centers we already have,” Reuss said.

>Reporters at the investor event say Reuss chuckled softly as he made his offhand revelation.

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hoppeeness t1_iybe718 wrote

I mean…not sure what they are fixing…conveniently it’s not said and it’s only 11k vehicles.

Almost definitely it is just tire changes…but you know the headline gets clicks.

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Funicularly t1_iyc52nz wrote

Just tire changes? You don’t know much about automobiles.

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Tomcatjones t1_iyceu18 wrote

EVs need much less repair than ICE. Body work can be done almost anywhere if the parts can be sourced

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hoppeeness t1_iycytml wrote

I am asking what do you think GM is actually doing? Only 11k vehicles and the article gives no details. What are they actually fixing? Just swapping wheels could easily be 11k vehicles.

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littleMAS t1_iybn6i9 wrote

EVs generally need fewer repairs than ICE vehicles. A friend with a Leaf said that the only schedule maintenance work was tire rotation, even the brakes lasted forever. I suspect the more frequent Tesla service is body work, and most dealers farm that out.

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WutWhoSaidDat t1_iybcfau wrote

Not very quiet if it made the news.

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Bipolarbearingit t1_iybg8a0 wrote

May as well change this to r/elonmusk since no one can get off his nuts.

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