balancedisbest t1_ixxgmzi wrote
Reply to comment by rainforestparadise in Tesla recalls more than 15,000 Australian electric vehicles over faulty tail lights by ninjascotsman
It isn't our job to vet your hypothetical sources though. They replied with their personal experience as an owner of the car, and you just said in effect "nah they aren't" then stating it was a fact.
If you want some more personal nonowner experience, I haven't had any bad ones except the echo on the model Y. To actively discredit myself: my experience is from getting a ride in uber (MY, MS, MX, M3/E) and my friends vehicles (MS and M3/E), which is definitely not the same thing as owning and daily driving them.
unique_passive t1_ixxh8xa wrote
It’s so easy to vet though? Like a casual google will give you this answer, even from websites that are Tesla fanboy sites. The only real way to disagree with his point is to actively avoid learning about it
balancedisbest t1_ixxlgof wrote
See the thing I don't understand is how you and a couple other people in this thread say there's these big, huge, irredeemable issues, yet the cars have been tested by many countries safety authorities and given quite high marks. And even if you didn't believe those, you hear almost once a week that a Tesla saved some driver or passenger from a potentially fatal wreck.
Yes of course there's some big issues with Tesla's (autopilot not being an autopilot, driver assisted modes not seeing obstacles, etc) but safety from a pedestrian and passenger perspective? Not even close. The most unsafe I've ever felt in a Tesla has been always due to the driver, not the vehicle.
unique_passive t1_ixxmrmc wrote
I have literally never heard a news story of a single Tesla feature or characteristic being a positive, especially not that it being a Tesla “saved someone from a potentially fatal wreck” until today. Thought I’d try and work out what you weee talking about with a quick search. And I’m a little bit chilled at the story, to be honest. The autopilot turned itself on after a collision? What if the driver had lost consciousness, or had actually managed to navigate through the crash safely? Like you’re saying, autopilot has massive issues with it. I wouldn’t consider it a good thing that the autopilot turns itself on after a collision until autopilot actually works properly.
The features I’ve read about from ratings of the car are that aside from the model 3, the cars aren’t water tight, they’re incorrectly sealed, and the body panels don’t line up correctly, leading to greater risks of water damage and flooding. Car can perform as great as it likes, I’m not driving something that will get damaged by rain. But that’s just the CR, I guess. Anecdotal evidence is better according to the weird replies people are giving.
balancedisbest t1_iy08tyn wrote
>Thought I’d try and work out what you weee talking about with a quick search. And I’m a little bit chilled at the story, to be honest. The autopilot turned itself on after a collision? What if the driver had lost consciousness, or had actually managed to navigate through the crash safely?
Autopilot as far as I know, always concedes control to the driver, unless the driver is unresponsive. I recall only once hearing about autopilot taking over/turning on after a crash, but I don't remember the circumstances. Might have been the driver hitting the prompt due to the inertia? I haven't heard about that one since then though.
I don't think easily amendable issues like weather sealing and panel gaps count as "urgent safety concerns" though.
unique_passive t1_iy0oqmp wrote
Never called that an urgent safety concern, so not sure why you’d throw some quotes around that like it’s something I said. It’s also irrelevant how easy you think it is to amend, I wouldn’t buy a car that you immediately need to put work into just to drive it in the rain. It’s a poorly designed car if it’s not fit for purpose.
balancedisbest t1_iy9nx2c wrote
>Never called that an urgent safety concern, so not sure why you’d throw some quotes around that like it’s something I said.
Yup that's a my bad, confused two comments.
While I do agree that there shouldnt be a frequent (naturally, one or two lemons will slip through) issues that need addressing right off delivery, if it was just weather sealing or maybe a slightly squeaking door etc, I personally wouldn't let that stop my purchase.
TheNewMeYouHaventCN t1_ixxhfpo wrote
LOL I knew it was CR. They rate cosmetic issues just as heavily as mechanical.
Go actually TALK to a Tesla owner. You'll find by and large they love their cars. Especially love bare minimum maintenance.
unique_passive t1_ixxl1i8 wrote
I guess ignore the literal breakdown given of the issues in the CR and pretend like people don’t have valid concerns on the car.
I mean. body panels not lining up in a car that already has known water leakage issues? That’s going to compound the issue pretty harshly. The car is regularly not constructed with the correct seals??
If you can’t drive the thing in the rain it’s a sack of shit car, I’m not sure what is so hard to get about that.
rainforestparadise t1_ixxoyef wrote
Classic simpleton taking anecdotal evidence and trying to use it to argue on the internet where you can literally just do some research yourself.
Timbershoe t1_ixyfll0 wrote
Do YoUR oWN ReseArCh.
Classic.
You think first hand experience isn’t as valid as some meme on social media you class as ‘research’.
balancedisbest t1_iy0971j wrote
Imagine being unable to read about the very issues you keep bringing up. Elon might ^(absolutely) suck ass, but at the very least the dude can read.
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