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balancedisbest t1_ixxlgof wrote

See the thing I don't understand is how you and a couple other people in this thread say there's these big, huge, irredeemable issues, yet the cars have been tested by many countries safety authorities and given quite high marks. And even if you didn't believe those, you hear almost once a week that a Tesla saved some driver or passenger from a potentially fatal wreck.

Yes of course there's some big issues with Tesla's (autopilot not being an autopilot, driver assisted modes not seeing obstacles, etc) but safety from a pedestrian and passenger perspective? Not even close. The most unsafe I've ever felt in a Tesla has been always due to the driver, not the vehicle.

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unique_passive t1_ixxmrmc wrote

I have literally never heard a news story of a single Tesla feature or characteristic being a positive, especially not that it being a Tesla “saved someone from a potentially fatal wreck” until today. Thought I’d try and work out what you weee talking about with a quick search. And I’m a little bit chilled at the story, to be honest. The autopilot turned itself on after a collision? What if the driver had lost consciousness, or had actually managed to navigate through the crash safely? Like you’re saying, autopilot has massive issues with it. I wouldn’t consider it a good thing that the autopilot turns itself on after a collision until autopilot actually works properly.

The features I’ve read about from ratings of the car are that aside from the model 3, the cars aren’t water tight, they’re incorrectly sealed, and the body panels don’t line up correctly, leading to greater risks of water damage and flooding. Car can perform as great as it likes, I’m not driving something that will get damaged by rain. But that’s just the CR, I guess. Anecdotal evidence is better according to the weird replies people are giving.

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balancedisbest t1_iy08tyn wrote

>Thought I’d try and work out what you weee talking about with a quick search. And I’m a little bit chilled at the story, to be honest. The autopilot turned itself on after a collision? What if the driver had lost consciousness, or had actually managed to navigate through the crash safely?

Autopilot as far as I know, always concedes control to the driver, unless the driver is unresponsive. I recall only once hearing about autopilot taking over/turning on after a crash, but I don't remember the circumstances. Might have been the driver hitting the prompt due to the inertia? I haven't heard about that one since then though.

I don't think easily amendable issues like weather sealing and panel gaps count as "urgent safety concerns" though.

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unique_passive t1_iy0oqmp wrote

Never called that an urgent safety concern, so not sure why you’d throw some quotes around that like it’s something I said. It’s also irrelevant how easy you think it is to amend, I wouldn’t buy a car that you immediately need to put work into just to drive it in the rain. It’s a poorly designed car if it’s not fit for purpose.

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balancedisbest t1_iy9nx2c wrote

>Never called that an urgent safety concern, so not sure why you’d throw some quotes around that like it’s something I said.

Yup that's a my bad, confused two comments.

While I do agree that there shouldnt be a frequent (naturally, one or two lemons will slip through) issues that need addressing right off delivery, if it was just weather sealing or maybe a slightly squeaking door etc, I personally wouldn't let that stop my purchase.

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