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Badfickle t1_iydhvbn wrote

Decline on what metric? Their production and sales have risen by 50% for 3 years running. They have two gigantic factories just beginning to ramp production meaning they will continue to increase production by 50% for at least the next 3 years. They have two new product lines coming in the next 6 months.

What has happened is though is that Tesla has gone from the underdog upstart to an existential threat to several markets. Hence the astroturfing and the divorcing from reality in this sub.

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Geiseric222 t1_iydzhan wrote

This is dumb their car quality has gone down and then there is the auto pilot shit. That and all the recalls.

I get when it comes to things you like words like astroturfing or whatever bullshit are attractive but you have to accept one thing. Tesla will always be the toys of the upper middle class and nothing more

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Bensemus t1_iyeh5no wrote

> That and all the recalls.

Yet they issued less than half the number of recalls Ford has and Ford is supposedly one of those experience car makers yet they can't figure out how to install spark plugs.

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heyimjason t1_iydj1kh wrote

Yeah, you really, really need to think long-term. Big growth for a couple of years doesn’t mean it’s going to last. Tesla having a couple of factories and a couple of upcoming products (not that they deliver on those promises) doesn’t mean shit when you consider that soon people are going to have all kinds of EV options from Ford, GM, VW, and pretty much every other big player in the auto industry. And they’re going to deliver vehicles with much better quality control and much lower prices. Tesla is fucked.

And that’s all before even mentioning that many folks won’t buy from anti-union companies, or that people won’t buy from Tesla simply because Musk is a huge tool, or because Tesla treats its workers like shit.

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dixadik t1_iyesq3g wrote

> they will continue to increase production by 50%

supply sider bs

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