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I_Can_Comment_ t1_ivmi8cq wrote

Reply to comment by ConstantinSpecter in Tesla Recalls 40,000 Vehicles Over Potential Power Steering Failure by Additional-Two-7312

I bet Toyota has a billion more cars and products on the street than Tesla

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jetstobrazil t1_ivmpef2 wrote

Seriously, Tesla produces, what… 4 vehicles? Toyota has been making cars for 75 years and has 14 current models.

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Cyathem t1_ivnmy89 wrote

You don't understand "rates", do you?

Recalls : New cars sold

Tesla = 55%

Toyota = 191%

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ukezi t1_ivo1eg0 wrote

They compare total vehicles for that brand sold and recalled in the time frame.

There are a lot of Toyota on the road recalls happen not only for new cars. I think a lot of the recalled Toyota were some before the time frame and that is increasing the numbers.

On the other hand there were basically no Tesla before 2011.

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Cyathem t1_ivoa5hf wrote

>On the other hand there were basically no Tesla before 2011.

This doesn't change the rate. Toyota was selling cars for longer but also recalling then for longer. Tesla wasn't able to recall cars during that period, but they didn't sell cars either. It's not relevant to interpreting the results.

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ukezi t1_ivoat61 wrote

Ok. Scenario: you sell lots of cars. From say 2000 to 2010 you have an airbag in the cars that in 2012 is shown to have a problem. So you do a recall in 2012. As you just recalled 10 years of production you obviously recalled more cars then you sold in 2012.

That is a problem that a company that basically didn't sell cars before the reference time frame can't have.

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Cyathem t1_ivp60h0 wrote

We'd have to see the average age of the products that were recalled. In my mind, recalls usually happen pretty soon after a model is released. It doesn't take 10 years for something to need to be recalled. I think it usually shows up in the first two years. I'd have to check though.

The average time between release and recall should decrease, if over-the-air software updates are being considered recalls. Those will only get more common.

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