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liquid_at t1_iwydi5e wrote

Reply to comment by zombienudist in GM CEO Barra says electric vehicles to be profitable by 2025 by zsreport

oh, they won't end up in landfills... They will just use a ton of energy to recycle them at a low rate, with all that remains ending up in a landfill.

The energy-usage from production to recycling is still very high.

But of course it can be done a lot cheaper if oil is used to get the energy... Very eco-friendly...

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zombienudist t1_iwywx1l wrote

Compared to what? The problem here is you write this out in isolation. Is there a footprint to recycle a battery? Of course. But you know what also causes a footprint? The extraction of oil and the refining of that into gasoline. So sure you have a footprint to build the battery but then you use that battery for years. The only thing that matters is if the one thing is better then another. And in this case every lifecycle study I have read says EVs have lower carbon emissions over their lives.

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liquid_at t1_iwyzicw wrote

Carbon emissions just happen to be only one metric. One that ev is good at. Other metrics look worse. There is a lot of pro ev advertisement going on right now, despite the technology not being where we would need it.

But companies have invested money, so consumers need to be motivated to spend now.

You will see in a couple years that things are not as great as you are being told right now.

News just has a pro ev narrative that is blind to the problems.

But your opinion is your opinion. If you care, you look it up, if not. Then not. As will everyone else.

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zombienudist t1_iwze6ze wrote

Moving the goal posts I see. Either way the data on this is pretty clear based on all the lifecycle studies I have read. Perhaps you need to investigate a little further.

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