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typing t1_iy824h6 wrote

Don't censor, get fined? Sounds like a hit to free speech.

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DataGOGO t1_iy8yw0j wrote

The UK and EU do not have free speech (Literally).

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masterblaster0 t1_iy96z9n wrote

THB there is no free speech with these businesses, they already moderate and their ToS limits the sort of content one can post.

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Alternative_Dish740 t1_iyaaih7 wrote

UK doesn't have free speech at all. They've already arrested people for "causing anxiety" on Facebook.

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Daetra t1_iy84yn9 wrote

When has it ever been about free speech and social media? It's was always about controlling who says what and it hasn't changed.

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typing t1_iy85oqn wrote

Controlling who says what is preventing free speech.

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Daetra t1_iy85uf1 wrote

How so?

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MrDefenseSecretary t1_iy8hzak wrote

Bruh. Controlled speech is the literal antithesis to free speech.

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Daetra t1_iy8lm4x wrote

That being said, most people don't actually care about free speech and it's usually being virtue signalled. Truth Social is heavily moderated and when people cry about free speech, like Musk, they show themselves to be hypocrites. It was always about controlling speech.

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EmotionalPlum2102 t1_iy8vwbb wrote

It hasn’t been always about controlling the speech it’s always about controlling people. Speech is part of that yes but having control over people is what it’s about.

I am pro policing social media and what we are seeing are countries trying to act on that as we learn more and more about how social media is affecting the people of the world. The countries actions won’t be perfect and nor will the actions take effect over night in the change that world societies need to happen but not doing anything about the current social media problems is not the course of action to take we are finding that social media affects the well being of individuals all the way up to entire tribe mind mentality countries where we see a complete picture of what misinformation spread on social media does: it elected Donald trump, if not for twitter Trump would not have been elected IMO.

The internet was great prior to social media and now that internet traffic has consolidated to maybe 5 major platforms we see the problem with it and hive mind. Reddit is unique with our communities being able to mod themselves and I suspect policing social medias via govt will entice users to leave said major social media platforms.

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Daetra t1_iy8xph3 wrote

I agree with a lot of what you said. Moderators can moderate how they see fit. When we sit down and talk about censorship honestly, most people would agree that in some form of it. Like who would want grown ass adults walking up to children and saying anything they want because of this notion of free speech. We censor ourselves when we are at work and act in a professional manner. Same when we are having conversations with people we don't know very well and we learn to read the room and avoid divisive conversations.

As far as social media and it's effect on our mental health, it doesn't look great. The internet and social media is a new phenomenon that will have to adapt to. Are places like 4chan where there's no moderation better for humans overall? I don't think so. Do we want a fascist state that controls all forms of media online and offline? Probably not. I don't think absolutes when it comes to free speech and expression is safe or healthy.

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EmotionalPlum2102 t1_iy966t3 wrote

Are you me? Because I feel like I just replied to myself. Wow I’ve never met anyone on this sub that thinks like me lol

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EmotionalPlum2102 t1_iy97z7t wrote

Do you listen to the Making Sense Podcast by ol Sammy boy Harris? His most recent interview with Cal Newport paints a great picture on said phenomenon’s and better health for the world. I am urging everyone I know to give it a listen and seriously consider how humans will never adapt to the quick change of technological of the future if we don’t change how we communicate online. The podcast aired only yesterday and if enough influential people and the hive mind takes hold of it, change may happen quicker than expected ;)

Why I Left Twitter by Sam Harris

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Daetra t1_iy99iis wrote

I'll check it out, though I don't agree with Sam on a few issues. If he's worried about how we interact online isn't healthy, I would have to agree. Especially when it comes to young men. Too many are developing cluster B tendencies and a general negativity towards women.

People like Andrew Tate can be dangerous to young men and while I do understand why people say that we should allow everyone to speak freely and bad ideas like his should be challenged, as most would see what hes saying as bullshit. The problem is the few that buy into his rhetoric.

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Daetra t1_iy8kkr9 wrote

Oh the idiot edited their post. Before they were saying controlled speech was free speech.

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