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Suitable_Balance_930 t1_iye7pp3 wrote

We had this issue where I live. Well, sort of. We had no internet sans Hughes Net which is run by asshole liars and cheats, or DSL. I live pretty rural and this has always been an issue for us that and DSL is slower than dial up because I’m so far from the CO. Welp, about 2019, the County Government got fed up with trying to get Verizon or Firefly to build a network for us. Neither wanted to because the upfront capital and the time to recoup it. Well fuck you too. Shit part is the fiber trunk runs up the main highway righ along side the county line to a major data center then to Ashburn.

Then COVID. County applied for numerous grants and got nothing while ducking Comcast’s got millions to deploy at network and then keep the cash. County said fuck this shit.

It’s now the end of 2022 and the County not only designed, engineered and deployed the network but it’s almost complete. The entire fucking County. They even did the schools and public safety radio system. It’s all fiber now. They installed the fiber, nodes, relays and all the interconnects for millions less than Verizon or Firefly. Because the County owns it we make out like crooks. I pay $80 a month for 1G/500 all fiber. I had to pay for the pull to my home which was $400 but I divided up by 24 months and slapped it on my bill. As it’s a County service, I pay no taxes and no fees. A flat $99.99 until next August then it’s $79.99. No data caps and no throttling ever. Last month I pulled over 2 TB down with zero issues.

Fuck big monopolies. Let the County level government do this shit and see what happens. I’m free market all the way but sometimes the free market isn’t even remotely the best option

Also, fuck Verizon

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jeagerkinght t1_iye847d wrote

As someone working in municipal govermnet, how would one go about starting this? And who actually did the work to build it out?

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Suitable_Balance_930 t1_iyec2bd wrote

That I’m not sure TBH. Second part is easy. They put out RFP’s and went at it. Lotta local guys got the contracts too which is nice so the revenue goes stays local. I lucked out as my company had the contracts with those local companies to maintain their equipment so when stuff broke, the entire County was breathing down our necks lol. I actually sent out a truck just dedicated to those companies and their fleets. It would literally follow the trenchers from site to site and be ready to fix it if it broke and we even did the maintenance in the off hours so the machines weren’t down for that. That’s a unique service our company offers. But I digress. The system would be finished if not for supply chain issues and getting nodes. I know a lot of it was funded via bonds but they got a good chunk of COVID cash for it. When the deployment first started it was tough but once the companies got synched up holy shit the speed of install was nuts. I got the fiber pulled, handholds and nodes installed, the pull to my house and the NID installed in under two weeks. The key is to not half ass it. The County spent a good amount of time engineering the system the right way. While everyone was screaming hurry up, they took the design and engineering time to make sure it was future proof and reliable. They really did a fantastic job and it was worth the effort. They do all the installs and customer service too and because it’s a County entity, they can’t fuck around without finding out from the people.

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Suitable_Balance_930 t1_iyedcfq wrote

Also, it was a win win in a sense. Citizens got amazing internet and the public safety folks got safer. Before, the radio system only cover certain areas of the County and handheld radios were useless. Kinda scary for public safety folks. Now the County has full coverage with no dead spots and super reliability. That did add into the cost a bit. The County also put hotspots on major buildings in population centers as well. Like I said, they did good

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[deleted] t1_iyen3ki wrote

/r/networking might be able to help give you pointers

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Electronic-Sorbet981 t1_iye9frk wrote

I had a similar gripe when moving to Virginia from Raleigh, NC. I wfh but the internet in rural Va is basically from 2003. Had to move to a college town to find any decent speeds but even that's capped at 2tb.

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KilledTheCar t1_iyejji1 wrote

Parts of rural VA are getting fiber as a project under Dominion. I don't know everywhere that's getting it, but I've made designs in Appomattox, Richmond, and Prince Edward counties.

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Suitable_Balance_930 t1_iyeasgl wrote

Yeah, folks in Cville are not happy and the folks in the next County over are livid. Their county government is writing building permits with wanton abandonment because of “muh tax revenue”. Folks are now saying where’s this tax revenue and why does the next county over have fiber and in under two years.

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LateYam9070 t1_iyegmvy wrote

Don’t need a study to know I’m getting proper fucked by Xfinity Comcast whatever fuck those fuckers

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Zoraji t1_iyefie9 wrote

What irritates me is that the telecom companies will take government grants to improve broadband then never implement anything but nothing is ever done to account for the money.

My wife's rural rice farming village in Thailand had fiber to the house years before I could get it here in one of the top 25 most populous cities in the US.

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thinkB4WeSpeak t1_iyed7cp wrote

We can have tons of studies about it but when will people do something about it?

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Nersheti t1_iyfe7er wrote

We’re finally getting some overbuilds in my area. Can’t get it in my neighborhood fast enough.

We’ve been stuck with only Suddenlink (recently turned into Optimum) for years. When they were smaller, they were great. Then, over the past 10ish years, they were involved in multiple mergers that kept the name. The service suffered immensely.

The worst part is, they know they’re the only game in town, so they treat you like garbage and your only recourse is to just not have internet.

There’s finally a company called Vexus that’s overbuilding their network with fiber, but it’s taking a while. It was supposed to be in my neighborhood months ago, but still isn’t. I’m soooo ready to change providers. Even if they aren’t much better, the competition alone should force both to improve a little. Even if they don’t I can probably get decent deals by hopping back and forth every now and then.

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Badtrainwreck t1_iyeyqzy wrote

My service has only gotten better thanks to the monopolys! #ad

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groshreez t1_iye3awp wrote

No shit. Who funds a study like this? I'd like to be paid to complete a useless study.

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anti-torque t1_iye73w7 wrote

Um... Consumer Reports... like it says in the third sentence.

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groshreez t1_iyem2vz wrote

They must like pissing money away. The average person knew the outcome of the study before it was started.

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[deleted] t1_iyen68v wrote

you overestimate the intelligence of the average person

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groshreez t1_iyeqesp wrote

I know the general public isn't very smart but you don't think people are aware that monopolies rip people off?

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[deleted] t1_iyeqkjq wrote

Yes, lots and lots of people really don't know that. Based on experience. Especially the ones that actively don't want to know that because it conflicts their political ideology of "corporations are always right! regulation is bad!"

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groshreez t1_iyf34z5 wrote

Lol ok, anyone that believes "corporations are always right" would definitely fall under the stupid category.

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[deleted] t1_iyf8w0j wrote

That's essentially what all republicans think soo.. you're not wrong.

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