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SlickJamesBitch t1_ivbtyec wrote

If there was a perfect authority that could remove untrue information I would pro censorship, I just defend free-speech because I don’t trust a source to determine what is right and wrong info with out society rife with political corruption. Just look at how the leftist freaking out about the possibility of Elon censoring their speech.

There’s clear negatives to free speech like people believing ridiculous conspiracies, but I’d much rather have that than to be in a society with top down authoritarianism.

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sockpastarock t1_ive4oec wrote

There's a flaw in this classic "arbiter of truth" argument. We shouldn't ask "who" can we trust as the arbiter of truth - the answer is we cannot trust anyone with that responsibility. Instead we should ask "what" can we trust?

It's an epistemic question and we have already developed good ways of dealing with it as a species. Look at the scientific method which fundamentally relies on the principle of falsifiability to seek truth. Free speech would ideally rely on the same principle if we consider it useful for the purpose of leading us toward truth. If the speech in question is unfalsifiable or is falsified then it shouldn't be considered as protected speech. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's automatically censored, but that if this speech is challenged for censorship then free speech alone would not be an adequate defence against censorship. There may be other defences for it - for example, we still publish scientific papers which falsify their own hypothesis but we wouldn't keep publishing the same falsified hypothesis repeatedly unless there is new information to bring it back into question in a way which is falsifiable. It's pretty simple and it has already been proven to operate exceedingly well as a method of truth arbitration as demonstrated by its utility with the rapid acceleration of modern science.

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DBDude t1_ivc8pqe wrote

The left isn’t scared of Musk censoring their speech. They’re scared he’ll stop censoring speech they don’t like so their ideas will have to survive on a level playing field.

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Flame87 t1_ivbua91 wrote

Defending "You kicked off our criminally delicensed doctor so we're banning every legitimate media outlet as decided exclusively by our party" isn't the "we aren't fascists" flex you think it is.

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