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TofuByte t1_iy8naz2 wrote

And we dont want closet klanners nor their supporters to have a platform to voice their hatred and racism.

Edit: for the incredibly thick individuals here, I wasn’t calling you a klanner. I was speaking in general about the rampant rise in racists using online platforms to spread their hate.

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BlazingJava t1_iy8opfg wrote

hatred and racism is always the get go but in the end the real reason is:

To censor political opposition

Cover corruption

Looking at all the shillers of CCP in western society, or Biden sons behaviour or his laptop or Tim Cook phonie "altruism" while exploring slavery in china and other african countries.

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DirtyPolecat t1_iy92k6m wrote

>or Biden sons behaviour or his laptop

I don't get what people want to see out of this. How does Biden's son getting caught doing hookers and blow have anything to do with Joe Biden? I'd say the same thing for one of Trump's family.

Ever thought that maybe people just don't give a shit? No censoring neccessary.

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monadyne t1_iy8vggk wrote

>a platform to voice their hatred and racism.

You don't get it. When some group has that platform and spews some hateful racist rhetoric, most people will look at it and conclude that those people are horrible. A tiny fraction will be in agreement with their awful ideas. That's how freedom works.

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habeus_coitus t1_iy8y0il wrote

Right, but then that tiny fraction starts getting other ideas…ideas like “if I can discredit my political opponents’ message while broadcasting my own far and wide then no one can stop me from inflicting my hate upon the world”. And they’ll hide behind the First Amendment along the entire way, claiming that you’re the one trying to silence them. You cannot have reasoned, measured discussion with hateful racists. If you give them an inch they will take a mile, then tell you you’re the oppressor for simply wanting even half of that inch back.

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KamikazeCoPilot t1_iy8pfe9 wrote

What I want is to have honest and open discussions from all sides...even those that are WAY out there (note: I understand that way out there is subjective). Let them have their speech. Have an open, honest DISCUSSION about everything. Even have a discussion about the studies that are used to present a point of view. Who funds a study, how is the data collected...everything. And do it all with a handshake going in and a handshake leaving. Understand that it is a discussion and not an attack. Be open-minded about the whole thing.

I despise all of this Hate. Both NativeCoder and TofuByte offered up insults; to be fair Tofu was matching Native's energy. Regardless, it didn't help anything. I'm not saying we have to be friends. But let's stop hating each other over the small stuff.

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TofuByte t1_iy948eq wrote

Small stuff? Why don’t you just say “I’m privileged and I don’t want to be inconvenienced “ There should be no open discussion where racists have a chance to speak. If you had children would you want child rapists to be able to have a platform to talk about “how they see things”? I understand that is how the church works but still. That would be like allowing Hitler a chance to speak and try justify to justify the slaughter. Once a person goes down a certain path they no longer deserve a voice nor a platform.

There is no grey area for discussion when it comes to topics of racism, homophobia and religious bigotry. You are either 100% against it or you are 100% for it. To see it any other way only proves that a person has never been a victim of this kind of hate and most likely contributes to it or benefits directly from it. I doubt Emmett Till could see a grey area that should allow room for discussion on racism as he was being tortured or when whites put the hoses to us simply for wanting to vote. Oh I wonder if those victims in Colorado were thinking about having a discussion with shooter on his transphobic view points as they were getting mowed down?

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