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giantpotato t1_ixifhys wrote

1 billion? That barely pays for half an Avatar movie nowadays.

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[deleted] t1_ixiiq10 wrote

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ghjm t1_ixilo7o wrote

It could also buy you twenty or thirty mid-budget movies that are driven by characters and stories rather than by CGI effects.

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JarvisCockerBB t1_ixj43l9 wrote

You mean like TIL? Which no one saw. Or She Said? Which also no one saw. How about Emily the Criminal, Three Thousand Years of Longing, Death on the Nile, Nightmare Alley, The Card Counter, Worst Person in the World, Tar. You make it seem like there's this huge audience for these films when the truth is, barely anyone is even watching these stories in the theater.

And fwiw, I've seen 7 of those films all in the theater to barely anyone around.

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raltyinferno t1_ixk35f4 wrote

Do they say anything about viewership?

No one is denying the big cgi blockbusters have higher viewership, but that doesn't change the fact that that budget can cover a lot of good character films.

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braamdepace t1_ixip4rc wrote

That’s under the assumption that you are spending $0 in P&A which is insane for the movie industry. Way of Water is estimated to cost around $400 with P&A. $250mm budget $150mm P&A. Also you are talking about a movie where a lot of the budget was spent prior to the crazy inflation and interest rates we’ve seen recently. All the movies you mentioned are sequels though so proof of concept has been established and generally sequels are more expensive. So with inflation adjusted and some P&A, you could see $1B make

Either -Titanic and Avatar (Amazon would be pumped for this outcome)

Or - John Carter and Waterworld (Amazon would be less happy)

Realistically you might get, a few decent movies, but a billion isn’t really that much all things considered. Especially when Amazon Prime is generally viewed as the streaming platform with some of the worst content.

Edit: P&A stands for prints and advertising (usually 50% if a films budget)

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BudgetCow7657 t1_ixirg38 wrote

I can't be the only one who thinks the upcoming avatar movie is gonna bomb like crazy.

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dev1359 t1_ixje9mm wrote

Highly doubt it's going to bomb, ticket presales already have it tracking for a $175M+ domestic opening and China just approved the movie for release over there.

No matter how good or bad the movie ends up being, I would never bet against James Cameron. We've already learned this lesson twice when people thought both Titanic and Avatar were going to be box office bombs.

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Spot-CSG t1_ixjlxdz wrote

I think the CGI (the big selling point of the first one) isn't gonna blow anyone away. We were playing modern warfare 2 on Xbox 360/PS3 when the first one came out. I can't see the visuals being anything out of the ordinary so its gonna have to fall back on its story...

I dont think its gonna bomb financially. I just think its gonna kinda suck.

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Awoawesome t1_ixr4vjm wrote

The second one actually looks like it took another leap graphics wise, but if the story isn’t good that’s when number 3 has a lot to make up for as they were produced simultaneously

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