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ponderousponderosa t1_j1gasgk wrote

Gross. I didn't realize American was an isolationist country who protected its citizens from competition. I guess it has to be now but that's not going to put us back on top of the world. You're justifying a pretty fucked up policy that takes advantage of people in order to protect the most privileged citizens from a bit of competition. What happened to the American dream? It's still alive for immigrants...

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spellbanisher t1_j1gciyp wrote

It's an incorrect understanding that assumes jobs are a zero sum game. But jobs can beget more jobs. For example, a company may wish to expand into AI. But maybe to do so competently it may need to hire at least 50 people. If it can't find enough people it might not make sense to expand into AI at all. By bringing in 25 workers, they would be creating 25 jobs for domestic workers.

Then there is the fact that immigrant workers create demand in other parts of the economy. They eat out, start businesses, buy cars, etc.

Finally, we shouldn't forget that these tech companies make massive profits. They can afford to pay all their employees very well. If domestic workers fear eroding wages, they should organize with immigrant workers instead of dividing themselves.

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Fraccles t1_j1gmdkg wrote

The situation is not binary. It is not "immigrants or no immigrants". Saying a reduction of a sliding scale is the same as it being zero just confuses the issue.

You wouldn't respond to someone reducing their speed in a car with "why have you stopped?"

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KSRandom195 t1_j1gkqfv wrote

I didn’t say it was a good policy. I said it was a complicated issue and gave some context as to why. I think we should be more free with many policies, but I don’t think the world is in a place we can do that yet.

We need policies to address the world we live in, not the world we wish we did

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