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ihavestrings OP t1_j1fw2ku wrote

Tldr

A criminologist has called for dating apps to introduce criminal history checks on users as the federal government is set to hold a summit into the security measures used by the platforms.

The AIC report found three-quarters of survey respondents had been subjected to sexual violence on dating apps in the last five years.

“The government expects dating apps and websites to do all they can to keep their users safe, such as providing easy-to-use reporting processes, support for victims of abuse, processes and policies that hold perpetrators accountable, and incorporating safety by design processes.”

A spokesperson for New South Wales’ minister for women, Bronnie Taylor, said she had recently written to Rowland asking her to take “urgent action” on “the issue of women’s safety on dating apps”.

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worstusername_sofar t1_j1g164i wrote

I'd also recommend girls stop going for the 'bad boys'. We can literally tell you who are dickheads by looking at them.

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elefantsblue t1_j1g3esf wrote

Just a few steps away from the social credit score being fully implemented.

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locri t1_j1g4n2g wrote

Come to think of it, if women want (or are okay) to date criminals then shouldn't we let them? It does seem immature to glorify anti social behaviour but it's not for us to get involved with how they move past that. That's their life.

Criminal checks for dating sounds like you want to make it impossible for people who've served their time to date, I can't agree with that.

I don't like sleazy ex cons dating ridiculously young women but, again, none of my business.

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CatastropheJohn t1_j1gicyp wrote

I made a minor mistake 36 years ago, so don’t date me.

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Lanoris t1_j1glt73 wrote

I mean shop lifting from a Walmart or a bounced check is whatever.

But I sure as fuck want to know if the person I'm going to be seeing this evening has been known to put their hands on their previous partners.

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Lanoris t1_j1go03q wrote

Did you even read the article?

"That needs to be stopped. We need to completely ban people with violent criminal histories or alleged histories, with any sort of civil intervention order in place, from these apps.”

It's not like they're worried about your marijuana charge or the time you got way too drunk and spent the night in a cell.

The purpose is to protect people from predators not penalize small time offenders.

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RovingMarsRobot t1_j1gvpii wrote

Good. Meanwhile in the progressive cities in the US, they’re trying to ban homeowners and landlords from doing criminal background checks on prospective tenants.

You could try to rent out a room in your house and the government would prevent you from checking if they’ve committed robberies or rapes

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Faustkatt t1_j1gxgj9 wrote

How accessible is that stuff? As an Australian I've had to do a background check only once and that involved me requesting info from the police and then submitting papers to the effect that I've never been caught doing anything particularly interesting in my life.

Surely they don't expect people will do that for a dating site? Is there some database the site can check instead?

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XxHavanaHoneyxX t1_j1h05po wrote

They run criminal record checks for people applying to work with children. This isn’t really any different. Meet some completely stranger, often for drinks, on an app is extremely risky. Most of the time it’s fine but you are extremely vulnerable of the person you are meeting has bad intentions. If they can filter out people known to have previously had bad intentions that isn’t a bad thing.

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Pikauterangi t1_j1h3iec wrote

Anything they want private citizens to do, we should make public servants do.

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Late-Ad-8520 t1_j1h6acw wrote

Yeah but you know it won’t stop at that, and any minor conviction would be enough to stop someone from having a home. I made a stupid harmless mistake when I was 19 and were it not for the laws in place where I was at the time I would have had to have disclosed that every single time I applied somewhere to work even though it had no bearing on my job.

The laws aren’t there to stop you from protecting yourself, they’re there to stop any conviction at all from barring someone from being a member of society

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Pirate_Secure t1_j1hffwh wrote

Australia is racing China to be even more dystopian.

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DrunksInSpace t1_j1hjad7 wrote

Huh. This is an interesting conflict.

On the one hand, there didn’t used to be restrictions on dating spaces. Clubs don’t have background checks, bars don’t etc. Dating apps are online analogs, in many ways.

Ubiquitous criminal checks can punish and further alienate from society someone who has done their time and is trying to reintegrate.

On the other hand… safety. How many harmed daters are an acceptable number? What is the freedom of a few ex cons worth against the safety of others? Does the answer change, when we drop the “ex cons:” What is the freedom of a few worth against the safety of others? If the answer does change, why? Is that right?

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kobeyoboy t1_j1ho3w2 wrote

Getting more time just messes with the offender. Majority of people who never been an offender won’t care that your marijuana charge for 2 years prison time while Martha ex boyfriend beat her up and was slapped on the write with 6 months country jail time

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EmbarrassedHelp t1_j1i0wxz wrote

The Australian government (eSafety Commissioner) is already demanding that companies implement encryption backdoors and mandatory proactive scanning for anything potentially "illegal". Source

I don't think people realize just how bad things are in Australia right now for anyone who cares about privacy and security online.

Its also interesting that r/Australia always calls out their governments anti-privacy bullshit, while non Australians on this subreddits are sometimes supportive of articles like these.

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psyon t1_j1iq69h wrote

How is it any different if you meet some stranger at a bar, a grocery store, or anywhere else? You can have your first date in a very public space, but if they woo you enough, you will eventually be alone with them.

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seksismart t1_j1is2s0 wrote

Lmfao WHAAAAAAT? Did you just really compare getting a background check to work with vulnerable populations to using Tinder?

I mean, there ARE alot of people with mental ilness trying to date these days... Maybe you are right. Maybe we should make a MentalCaseTinder app, specifically for vulnerable population people.

Would certainly make my life easier not to have to deal with them.

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nicuramar t1_j1iu1io wrote

> The Australian government (eSafety Commissioner) is already demanding that companies implement encryption backdoors and mandatory proactive scanning for anything potentially “illegal”. Source

I don’t really see where your source specifically demands that they implement encryption backdoors. Of course that would be one way to implement what they seek.

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XxHavanaHoneyxX t1_j1ixj20 wrote

It’s isn’t. They might be lying to you but in the very least you have seen their face. Difference with online is that there’s an opportunity to screen convicted fraudsters, murders, violent offenders, stalkers and rapists. It won’t catch potential criminals for sure. But it’s something.

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ihavestrings OP t1_j1kfg4a wrote

"The federal government has announced it will hold a summit with state governments, peak bodies and advocates in January, focusing on reforming security and verification policies on dating apps"

Maybe the system that they'll implement is someone signs up, has to submit ID and the company has to do the background check? I don't know what their laws are right now, if companies are allowed to do that.

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