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BranWafr t1_j1som5h wrote

I want an electric car. A $7500 tax credit will do nothing to make me be able to a) afford one or b) actually be able to get one if I could somehow afford it.

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JKJ420 t1_j1tmqlt wrote

I read your reply to another comment on this thread and I don't understand why you wrote your first comment in the first place. Let me explain.

You could make this comment on literally any consumer product, that gets a discount/credit, but you don't need at the time.

The problem is not having this thought, but the fact that you felt the need to tell people about it. Just imagine if on every reddit post (or real life comment), everybody would write: "I want this, but I don't need this right now, so why the discount/credit?"

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BranWafr t1_j1tnwbw wrote

Because the average price for an Electric Vehicle is almost $60k right now. A $7500 tax credit doesn't really do much to make it more affordable. (Especially since it is a tax credit, not a rebate. So you still have to pay the full price upfront. And chances of getting the full $7500 credit are pretty slim with all of the fine print.) And there's still an average 8 month waiting list to actually get an electric car these days so, if the tax credit makes them more popular, it's going to take even longer since they can't keep up with demand as it is, so increasing it will only make it worse.

I don't need to be currently shopping for an item to point out that a promotion for that item has some drawbacks or isn't really that good of a deal.

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nyconx t1_j1uluvp wrote

$7500 off of a $60K vehicle might not look that impressive, but on a $27k vehicle it feels like a steal.

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trmoore87 t1_j1ss9oa wrote

What’s your budget?

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BranWafr t1_j1st58y wrote

I maybe should have been more clear. While I want an electric car in the overall sense of "it would be nice to have one", I am not in the market for one right now. I've got too many other things I need to take care of so a new car, of any kind, is not in the budget any time soon. My main point was that with the average electric vehicle being at least $20k to $30k more than a gas powered vehicle, a $7500 credit isn't going to be the thing that suddenly makes me able to afford it.

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Syris3000 t1_j1t63zd wrote

The Chevy bolt is one exception. It's not exactly desirable by any means but it is electric and quite affordable.

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SomebodyF t1_j1tdvxr wrote

I have EUV and one regular one and they are both quite nicely built. $40k nice? not quite, but has all the advantage of EV brings and then some. Also it's a ton of fun to toss around.

Edit: It also has better build quality than Tesla that's double the price.

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Syris3000 t1_j1techw wrote

Can you realistically road trip in them? Seems like fast charging that isn't Tesla is kind of a crap shoot.

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SomebodyF t1_j1tejqh wrote

For road trip you get a Tesla, there's no competition right now for charging infrastructure.

My family went with Bolt and suffered it first hand. Every station they stopped by, you had to make a new account add payment info... and do a song and fire dance hoping charging station allows your car to charge. If not, find a new one and rinse and repeat.

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atchijov t1_j1tsmju wrote

Tesla opened they charging to everyone in EU… is it the same in US or did they do it only because EU “insisted”?

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Syris3000 t1_j1ufuda wrote

EU incentivized it, and it's mandated to be ccs plugs which makes it way more simple.

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illdragonu t1_j1u49zj wrote

EU is making not insisted tesla open their chargers for everyone. Us government isn't doing the same. Chances are once tesla figure out how to charge everyone appropriately for using thr chargers, us market will see the changes. I always said it, I think tesla will make its money on having the infrastructure and providing charging solutions rather than selling cars. Where's my robotaxi, truck...etc.

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maclaren4l t1_j1tbbz7 wrote

Chevy Bolt - google it, its not that expensive and quite a bargain in today's insane car market.

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Duckpoke t1_j1stfua wrote

Prices are only that high because of the lack of supply and high demand. In a few years when every auto maker is cranking them out they’ll be as affordable as ICE cars have been.

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