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donbee28 t1_j0yi7gp wrote

On their work phone…issued by the government.

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fibonacci85321 t1_j0yw8bz wrote

It's easy to compare this with any other piece of equipment issued to an employee, wouldn't you think?

If that employee doesn't have a deep understanding of what the software is doing to the device, I could compare it to a postal employee jacking up a delivery jeep with a new engine and knobby tires, or a cop putting explosive-tip bullets in his service weapon, or an air traffic controller adding a CB channel to his approach frequency radio, or a McDonalds cook using better quality oil in the deep fryer.

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zombietampons t1_j0y85xh wrote

Seems fairly standard practice, why is this a surprise? Pretty sure the majority of social media platforms are banned on government (state) devices. Oh well, move along nothing to see here.

Chinese Bad, intellectual property outsourcing good….

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kill92 t1_j0yw3is wrote

Nope, as a federal employee you can use Facebook which is encouraged by the United States government, Instagram no problem, YouTube no problem, LinkedIn no problem. Reddit, no problem, I've even been on 4chan

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Rad_Dad6969 t1_j0z7cp1 wrote

Yeah, I think that's the issue here. We need to set standards that any sane person probably thinks are already in place. It's been past time to regulate and the idea that a government employee can freely download any app is fucking insane. We are asking to be hacked.

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RebornGod t1_j0zlpwz wrote

I work with fed devices, at least for my agency, we already couldn't download anything. The app stores are disabled on all devices.

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SnooDoggos4906 t1_j0zhqxr wrote

Really. As a person that has had multiple company issued devices I always keep personal stuff like what you mentioned separate from work. LinkedIn can generally be considered professional but the rest No.

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cannibal_man t1_j102ypm wrote

Yeah, and it's time all that shit ends. The government could do it if they wanted to, but they're not serious about it, so this is what we have.

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zombietampons t1_j1035rp wrote

Fair Enough, however that was not the case here, was fairly strict in terms of social media & unapproved downloads, our IT guy was needed for every install and/or uninstall. However it was a ...

edit: also wife worked for the feds as well, asked her today, she worked under strict conditions in terms of social media as well, was monitored via IT. Anywho, the more you know.

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kill92 t1_j12eryb wrote

Seems interesting. I'm not surprised the DOD is lacking in that department. They definitely have restrictions and policies. But they could be way better, and cherry picking certain social media as a poster boy is absurd. What would actually help would be real legislation being passed on data protection rights, regardless of what country. Cheers

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NoahCharlie t1_j0zbcvw wrote

All the social media networks should be banned on government devices.

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drecklia t1_j10jhzs wrote

Unless your job is social media coordinator

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pants_mcgee t1_j0y4z6a wrote

Ok, just ban it across the country and be done with it.

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jcrreddit t1_j0yt3tm wrote

Ok, then ban every other privacy outsourcing pieces of social media or technology.

But they won’t! Because they can either get money or the actual privacy information from the other ones. China just doesn’t share. That’s what they don’t like.

They don’t care about you. They don’t care about us.

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alt4614 t1_j0ytu97 wrote

Well no duh

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jcrreddit t1_j11jcfe wrote

Glad you so simply agree.

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alt4614 t1_j11noqe wrote

No. Your premises make sense. But your rationale to "then ban every other..." does not. That's a leap that can be accomplished AFTER we've distanced ourselves from the grasp of China.

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jcrreddit t1_j12ehne wrote

It shouldn’t be a specific company banning. There should be laws protecting citizens privacy in general.

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alt4614 t1_j12l3la wrote

Well that's just not going to happen without a fundamental change in our constitution or decades of common law protecting data collection at the expense of privacy.

>It shouldn’t be a specific company banning

It should because it must. Or we get nothing, not even national security. Privacy is a pipe dream. National Security is not.

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jcrreddit t1_j17icmn wrote

You’ve got a pipe dream if you think the government is doing it for “National Security”. If China also gave them the data, they would be peachy keen with it.

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alt4614 t1_j17ij32 wrote

Speak english bro.

But no, it’s not a pipe dream. Tiktok is turning kids brains to mush, and you know it

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cannibal_man t1_j103ax8 wrote

> They don’t care about you. They don’t care about us.

Yeah, but I don't like the CCP anyway, so anything that sticks in their craw is a good thing.

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j021 t1_j0z8for wrote

Ok then reddit next? All social media platforms are the same

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Nose-Nuggets t1_j0z2nbl wrote

How is everything not banned and then select things whitelisted for all government devices?

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wedontlikespaces t1_j0zlzch wrote

Why is this news? We've never been allowed to put personal social media apps on our company phones why would the government be any different?

This is like saying Pokémon Go is banned on government devices, yeah I'm sure it is.

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sneakylyric t1_j10lvtk wrote

Who's out there using tik tok on their work phone? Come on guys.

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Twigsons t1_j0yhcon wrote

What adult is using that garbage?? I never thought that would be a problem!

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j021 t1_j0z8i6k wrote

Same Adults who use Reddit or any other social media platform

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kill92 t1_j0ywevd wrote

You're totally right, what adult uses social media

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Twigsons t1_j0ywo2p wrote

It’s not a real social media tho.

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SwanJumper t1_j0z4j7g wrote

You're delusional if you think it isn't or has no cultural influence.

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-ScruffyLookin- t1_j116jgn wrote

It is a very real social media, the only difference is it’s toxic cancer and scourge to our society on a level unlike any other social media platform.

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kill92 t1_j0yy7w0 wrote

Here is the definition of 'social media', websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking. Let's get to the root cause. Do you hate tick tock or do you hate China? Did that hate come from you or did that hate come from someone else? Prospective is life-changing

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Twigsons t1_j10047g wrote

I guess I’m very wrong then. I don’t know anyone who uses tiktoc. I don’t think I would even know it existed if not for the reposts of it on Reddit

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kill92 t1_j12f8ab wrote

Making mistakes is part of the journey. If you're not failing, you're not living. Failure is growth, and through growth you achieve capability.

#onelove

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Farseli t1_j0zjskr wrote

So the state transportation department TikToks I watch will need to be uploaded from personal devices? That's interesting.

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t3hmau5 t1_j0zo3op wrote

Why is there a news article saying this exact thing every single week. We know, and I dont get why anyone cares.

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SadcoreEmpire168 t1_j12crpw wrote

They’re literally trying to finish what Trump couldn’t do during his administration

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[deleted] t1_j0y31he wrote

As it should, it's crazy that it took them this long to ban spyware from government phones.

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Stilgar314 t1_j10cecx wrote

Using the devices your organization gives you for personal stuff is both a security risk for them and privacy risk for you. I find surprising this simple facts are still largely ignored.

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crackerasscracker t1_j10dfig wrote

Wow, all this TikTok talk is crazy! I thought they were going to try and ban TikTok for everybody in America, good luck with that! But on devices issued by the government? That have access to the Federal Government networks? Is our operational security really that bad? Do we need an act of congress for something that should be boilerplate IT policy?

We are so totally fucked.

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Delicious_Standard_8 t1_j10i8oe wrote

This is the way it needs to be. When I had a phone from work, when I worked for a top five bank, there was no way to even download outside apps, it wasn't possible. And I had access to EVERYTHING. Bank accounts, names, socials, all of it.

The rules they had were SO strict, but it was to protect the customers information, we already had access to so much

Fun fact, one time Caitlinn Jenner revealed her bank card logo on an episode of Keeping up with Kardashins. Some idiot decided to look up the account (Under then named Bruce)

He was literally frog marched out of the building within ten minutes

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cbass2008 t1_j0z7kz5 wrote

please please please extend this to all devices

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payne747 t1_j100d3z wrote

Bit late now, isn't it.

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jens-2420 t1_j0yv4ob wrote

What about Twitter? Nazi chats are ok on an official phone?

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anon-SG t1_j0z5dyz wrote

On all devices!

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Choice_Marzipan5322 t1_j0zewgy wrote

Can’t tilt tok be used to map a federal facility using the gps in your phone. Don’t matter if it is personal or issued for the job.

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Rad_Dad6969 t1_j0z6ivz wrote

Lawmakers should have no say in what individual app is and isn't allowed. They vote on the security standards, and if apps don't meet those standards they are banned by default.

No double standards when it comes to data security. If other apps fail in the same way tiktok does, just aren't controlled by the Chinese state, they should be banned too.

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ss3423 t1_j0zjrmf wrote

Read the article. It's on government devices.

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Rad_Dad6969 t1_j0zm1wa wrote

Yeah I know, the standards aren't in place and that's a huge problem. I have more protections on my corpo phone than a city official does. We're begging to be hacked. Your town should not have even handed out phones without a solid security policy that outlines what data can and can't be collected, and the safety procedures that must be in place at a company before entrusting it with said data.

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wedontlikespaces t1_j0zm8mp wrote

Why shouldn't they be able to ban apps, it's their devices?

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Rad_Dad6969 t1_j0zter6 wrote

They shouldn't need to create separate legislation every time a security threat arises.

They can come up with as many extra reasons as they want, and they can vote to ban anything they want. That's not my issue.

My issue is that something is creating a threat to government devices. We should have teams in place to identify these threats and clear policy on how to proceed once an application is identified as a security risk. Instead, we're leaving the call up to politicians who are twice as corruptible as they are informed.

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