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Devilsmark t1_j2ay2i0 wrote

Reply to comment by MysteriousAbroad7 in China's Huawei sees 'business as usual' as U.S. sanctions impact wanes by glawgii

ASML is being blackmailed into submission by the US.
Having a company in the EU not able to sell products because of American policy is alarming to the EU.

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Thegloriouskeychain t1_j2csgbz wrote

ASML uses American ip in its products, that’s why we get a say in who they’re allowed to sell to.

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Devilsmark t1_j2d0ijh wrote

Which should be a wake up call for the European Union.

What US is doing is strengthening China's R&D and scarring away everyone else from investing in US.

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Thegloriouskeychain t1_j2dm0je wrote

The Chinese have invested billions and failed multiple times. We have no obligation to allow our technology to be exported to china never mind that them having to increase their r&d slows them down and let’s us increase the lead over them. If eu doesn’t like that then they are more than welcome to begin the process of removing American ip and replacing it with their own.

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Devilsmark t1_j2e1233 wrote

The majority of the parts are not covered by US IP
The US will lose the most if it comes down to some kind of world-war-tech.

It's such a bad stance to have, "either you are with us or against us"

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Thegloriouskeychain t1_j2e20tp wrote

Except asml uses enough American parts in its products or otherwise the export ban wouldn’t be in effect. And the eu won’t do shit about it, it would lose just as much if not more if they went the route of just stealing ip. And the bad stance to have is to standby and do nothing while china continues to become a greater threat.

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Devilsmark t1_j2e2ys5 wrote

Except ASML has already shipped 23 lithography machines to China.

US is not holding that many IP's to stop ASML from shipping.This kind of Dunning-Kruger smack talk you are fronting with is not based in reality so drop it.

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Thegloriouskeychain t1_j2e4sxb wrote

Us export bans are barely coming into effect and can affect any product that consists of at least a 25% American parts dipshit. Fucking idiot, do you think that these exports bans would be considered such a problem for asml if Washington didn’t have the leverage to enforce them. Fucking dive head first into a brick wall.

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