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11B4OF7 t1_j20i40l wrote

Imagine being dumb enough voluntarily pay another company to manage you for your employer to also manage you.

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Staticn0ise t1_j20mgv8 wrote

Your arguments are very misleading. Unions provide some major advantages over not having one. I'm guessing your a business owner who pays shit, and poor benefits. Who fears the union. As you provide the corporate boot licking arguments that are pure fiction.

Unions will provide you with better pay, better benefits and a better work life.

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listur65 t1_j213pc2 wrote

I am guessing it's pretty rare, but he could have just had bad experience with a union. I work for a municipal utility/ISP and am covered under the local IBEW because of that. While I am still pro-union and pro-worker, and I realize my situation is sort of unique, I will give a few of the "meh's" about it from my angle.

  • Over the last 15 years we have an average of 2.1% yearly wage increase, and that's with the last 3 years each being 3%. From what I see online that is below average.

  • It is very hard to get rid of someone that is bad at their job. We had a tech banned from many of our larger customers locations(including other state owned businesses!), taken to court because of the quality of his work, and generally just gave a shit about nothing. The union made it such a pain to demote or fire him that the company basically gave up. It took a giant toll on the morale of the entire place.

  • Our benefits are not great, but not horrible. Oddly enough even the other city employees that aren't part of the union have better. Our health insurance premiums went up 15% this year, which they squeezed in just after saying how amazingly lucky we are for getting a 3% raise.

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DrakesDad_ t1_j210ree wrote

Unions were great when people were sleeping under their machines and getting paid 20 cents a day. Now, the idea of a union representing a bunch of blue haired video game developers is ridiculous. That being said, it will be awesome when they get their 45 paid sick days! Unions love getting their workers an insane amount of paid sick days so they can boast about how much they do for their employees 😂

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Howdytherefella123 t1_j21b2jz wrote

"Workers with union representation enjoy a significant pay premium compared to non-union workers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports non-union workers earn just 83 percent of what unionized workers earn ($975/week vs. $1,169/week). When more workers have unions, wages rise for union and non-union workers."

You're a ghoul. Be quiet.

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