Sufficient_Matter585 t1_j1mfgbi wrote on December 25, 2022 at 4:30 PM

Reply to comment by onecrazyguy1 in Revealed: The Israeli Firm Selling ‘Dystopian’ Hacking Capabilities by Toidotlers

genocide is more than "MURDER THEM ALL". its the destruction of who they are as a people. Taking away their sense of cultural identity and taking away all their lands until they have nothing left. Thats how you commit genocide.

onecrazyguy1 t1_j1mlfsh wrote on December 25, 2022 at 5:18 PM

Welp maybe if they want to keep their identity they should not elect terrorist groups like Hamas to lead them. They should stop declaring and losing wars against Israel, they should take aid and not use it for weapons and propaganda. Not sure what you expect Israel to do here, when their neighbor just wants to launch rockets while its leaders sit happy in Qatar. Israel left Gaza in 2005, all they got for it was rocket attacks. Palestine(specifically the leaders not the people) have no interest in making peace, they will lose more until that changes.

blumpkinmania t1_j1mqf79 wrote on December 25, 2022 at 5:57 PM

Welp. Maybe the Israelis shouldn’t have created Hamas if they actually wanted a peace deal.

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onecrazyguy1 t1_j1mtz6z wrote on December 25, 2022 at 6:25 PM

They didn't create Hamas, they worked with Hamas when it was a religious organization and non violent as opposed to the PLO that carried out terrorism globally and did attacks like hijacking the plane to Uganda or the massacre of Israeli athletes during the Munich olympics. No surprise Israel wanted to work with the non violent(at the time) organization over the terrorist group. Not much different with the US and the Mujadeen.

Wotg33k t1_j1mur66 wrote on December 25, 2022 at 6:31 PM

Blah blah blah. Religion is stupid and humans are dumb.

If you learn to abstract, you'll see that all these words are worthless. I guess I should say the same thing to myself, though, because here I fucking am, writing worthless words for people who won't even remember them 5 seconds from now.

Man. To quote Bill Nye, "the world is on fucking fire". None of this shit matters. Israel and Palestine sound like wonderful places to learn more about when the literal world isn't ending.

I know, I know. It's not that bad, guy. Right?

Is it not, though? Here we are worried about whether or not a country should be sanctioned when an entire new, plastic landmass exists in the ocean.

The real slow genocide is the genocide of humanity over the course of these years. And, yet, here you are discussing a temporary culture. It doesn't matter!

This shit is going to turn sideways to the point that Hamas and Israel and America doesn't exist anymore if we don't change big shit. These political issues don't fucking matter.

onecrazyguy1 t1_j1mz8yg wrote on December 25, 2022 at 7:06 PM

This is an idiotic comment. As a point though, although there are religious aspects to to the conflict(Ownership of Jerusalem and temple mount, ect..), it really has very little to do with religion anymore as much as it's about control of land and not wanting to be attacked.

Wotg33k t1_j1n16t8 wrote on December 25, 2022 at 7:21 PM

It's not idiotic. It's naive to think that any human problem today is important at all.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to lose Ukraine or see genocide in Palestine. No thanks.

But none of that matters if we don't rein in our bullshit ON A GLOBAL, SPECIES LEVEL.

Really. What difference does it make if we save Palestine from Israel only to see that entire swath of the earth be uninhabitable?

That's what we're looking at here. Make no mistake. It's that serious. I'm not some insane mfr either. I just study shit and know stuff. Climate change is going to kill us all. This petty bullshit is just a grain of sand compared to that.