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divinitia t1_j25wui7 wrote

>One wonders, as more and more "fully vaxxed and boosted" people start showing complications like myocarditis, blood clots, miscarriages, and even "died suddenly"

And vastly more never had any life-threatening issues since being vaccinated, even on the off chance of catching covid

Don't forget that part

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[deleted] t1_j25xwmq wrote

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divinitia t1_j26c3ue wrote

>So far, that's true. Absolutely. That doesn't negate the fact that a small, but significant percentage of those taking the mRNA shots have had problems, up to and including death.

Which is perfectly reasonable for medication when the chances of that are a fraction of the combined chance of getting covid and then dying from it/facing serious health problems from it.

>That doesn't negate the fact that we have been repeatedly lied to.

You not understanding things doesn't mean you were lied to.

>Remember the halcyon days where we were all to get injected to save grandma, because we were taking a vaccine that prevented illness and transmission? Now we know those shots do neither of those things, and we're just kinda supposed to forget about all that.

Like which vaccines? who was supposed to forget what? The polio one? Which had and still has only a 90-99% chance of effectiveness? Perhaps the measles one with 93% chance of effectiveness? Maybe you're thinking of the mumps vaccine, the one with a 78% chance of effectiveness?

There has literally never been a 100% chance of effectiveness (nor does it NEED to be)for vaccines because that's not how biology works and perhaps you were just not educated enough to know that? That's not being lied to that's you not knowing information and the obvious fact that when enough people get vaccinated for these never been 100% effective vaccines then the combined herd immunity makes it near impossible for the virus to continue. That's what we did to polio for decades until people like you that are "just asking questions" decided to stop vaccinated and boom polios back. And measles. And mumps. And now apparently rubella too.

>If I took 4 or 5 polio vaccinations, and still came down with polio, I'd be having some questions.

And the answer would be "the polio vaccine is only 90-99% effective even after 3 doses and this has always been true and we've known this since the 50s". But guess what? Polio was eradicated in the US using this polio vaccine even though it still had a much much much much much much smaller number people coming down with polio (until you people cropped up).

>And speaking of adverse reactions, remember when we were all gonna die from the swine flu, and voila, we had a vaccine? Remember what happened? A small, but significant portion of the people who took those injections had adverse reactions, and those shots were pulled.

Are you talking about the recalls that were based on "adverse reactions" that turned out not to be linked at all to the swine flu vaccine?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25320099/

>As stated, at some point, questions are going to be asked about why this was handled differently

It wasnt

> and why untruths were told and retold

They weren't

>and why questioning and dissent, even by medical professionals, was quashed.

Because it was founded on nothing by people like you who don't know much of anything and was killing people

Even now you're questioning these vaccines, despite PROOF that they work. That they lower transmission. That they lower the rate of death and serious health issues. You question these things, with proof all around you, WITH NO BASIS. You even brought up a vaccine recalled that was done because of PEOPLE LIKE YOU CLAIMING IT HAD RISKS WHEN IT DIDN'T AND WE HAVE PROOF THAT IT DIDN'T.

Are you starting to see why when you people cry wolf so many times that we start to ignore you?

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[deleted] t1_j26fce7 wrote

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divinitia t1_j26gwko wrote

>Thankfully, there are plenty of strong willed people who were able to resist the outrageous pressure to be repeatedly injected with an experimental drug. You can call us "the control group," which is important in any long term experiment.

And dropping like flies.

>And thankfully, there are doctors out there brave enough to take the heat and actually promote treatments, especially early treatments. For example, much of the Zelenko and FLCCC protocols involve vitamins and supplements. When's the last time your government clamped down on people taking vitamin C and D, for example? Zinc? How many generations of Americans took zinc losenges when they had a sore throat? Quercetin? And don't get me started on the vilification of HCQ and Ivermectin, both provably safe drugs administered world wide. But your government did its best to suppress those drugs, despite many doctors getting good results with them on covid patients.

Yes, you're right, there are plenty of doctors willing to make a quick buck off you by feeding you fake miracle drugs like ivermectin (that doesn't work). I heard there's a new one coming out made of this oil they make out of snakes, make sure you get on that.

>Can you remember any time when your government actively tried to keep provably safe medicines from people? Off label prescriptions are commonplace, but apparently, not acceptable with covid. Why? What happened to, medical decisions should be between you and your doctor, not you and the insurance company, or you and the government (or you and Pfizer)?

I think now I have to ask what country are we talking about? In the US nothing has been restricted. I can go to a store and by ivermectin (well, the dog doses, but that was always the case). I can go to a store and buy vitamin c and vitamin d and zinc. Is this different in your country?

Also does it ever get tiring larping as the action hero in some James Bond ripoff

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Ok_Ninja_1602 t1_j28mjpj wrote

Strong willed? A lot of you straight-up died in hospitals or at home.

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