blade944 t1_j2649y0 wrote
Reply to comment by Snorkle25 in Covid-19 Misinformation And Disinformation Remained A Huge Problem On Social Media In 2022 by Wagamaga
I never said it was the best. It was the best available at the time. That’s how science works. The conspiracy part is that you led with government lies and deceit. Most of that is in the realm of conspiracy theories. The thing you seem to be hung up in is the idea of differing opinions. For most of scientific research there is no difference of opinion. There is fact, and not fact. And those that peddle not fact are spreading misinformation. We are at the point that anti vaxers must be taken seriously even though ALL legitimate research proves them wrong. Not everything has two sides that must be given equal consideration. You don’t have flat earthers on the news to give their opinion on the artimus mission. The problem is when that kind of nut job thinking is given legitimacy and spread deliberately in order to create chaos. “News” outlets like fox that pound gear into their viewers and farm outrage while swearing under oath that they don’t believe any of what they say on their shows. That deliberate misinformation in order to keep viewers engaged and outraged. There now is a large part of the country that believes every little piece of misinformation that comes their way because to them it has become a drug. These are the people that believe trump is fighting some secret battle and is actually president. These are the people that think Jan 6th was antifa. These people are now sitting in congress making laws. The ones that didn’t win are being put on the bench as a judge by the GOP. That’s fucking scary. That’s what misinformation does. It gives a really loud voice to the one person in opposition to millions. It makes individuals think that all opinions are equal and deserve equal weight. They don’t.
Snorkle25 t1_j2651l3 wrote
We don't know that it was the best available at the time. That's the whole fucking point.
blade944 t1_j265mii wrote
No. We do know it was the best available at the time because the best people in the field told us so. If a thousand epidemiologists say one thing and one chiropractor on YouTube says another you can safely ignore the chiropractor. The entire point is that organized groups put it in people’s heads, you included, that somehow the experts were wrong, or deliberately fucking us over, and that somehow some fringe crackpots had all the answers. What you do t realize is that you are a victim of these misinformation campaigns and you are still doing their dirty work for them.
Snorkle25 t1_j26828d wrote
Because we didn't have a natural consensus derived from data presented by thousands of experts. We had talking points from a very few select government institutions that was sold as if it had come from thousands of experts.
And the way we know this didn't come from thousands of experts is very clear. There was no large body of scholarly work on which they pointed to any of this information. To the opposite, most of the time we were not provided any evidence, just opinion.
For there to be thousands and thousands of experts to come to a conclusion on something new and novel it takes time and lots of work, and not just from epidemiology. Also biology, medicine, virology, data science and a dozen other inter-related fields.
All you are doing is furthering the propaganda of manufactured consent. And I'm done talking with a peddler of sophistry.
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