lecali4011atdrloutan t1_j4sqn3b wrote on January 18, 2023 at 12:14 AM

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Do you see any positives on the other side of the scale? Freeing Eastern Europe from totalitarianism? Saving Kuwait from extirpation? Protecting Ukraine and Taiwanese independence? Providing a middle class living to 100s of millions? Eliminating more dictators than the rest of the world combined? Just want to know what you think about the positive role the US has played in promoting human rights. There are a lot of girls in Afghanistan who remember what being in a classroom was like

Jdobalina t1_j4szfze wrote on January 18, 2023 at 1:16 AM

The same Afghanistan where we gave weapons and money to the Mujahideen, and drug traffickers like Gulbuddin Hekmatyar? (Operation Cyclone) Who had a nasty habit of splashing acid in women’s faces? The same Afghanistan who, after being there for twenty years, we simply looted their central bank?

Also, for every dictator we have ever removed, we’ve propped up three more. Whether in Latin America (operation condor), or in the Middle East, or Africa, or Asia (the Jakarta method).

Countless invasions, coups, drone strikes, economic sanctions, blockades, assassinations and what do we have to show for it? Being the worldwide arbiters of violence doesn’t seem to be doing this nation any good right now.

lecali4011atdrloutan t1_j4tpvyh wrote on January 18, 2023 at 4:33 AM

You dodged my question. We gave weapons to isi to fight the evil empire. Not because they were liberal reformers. Real life has risks. The us bombed a medical factory in Sudan. Why??? Because the goal was just. In the real world there are unknowns and mistakes. It’s nice and easy to sit back and judge with hindsight. Without exception the dictators the us killed were more repressive than the us. It’s funny to hear you say the us stopped saddam. Tried to stop Castro. Killed gaddaffi and but we’re somehow worse? Do you know anything about how repressive the north Vietnamese were?