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Hugegodamnrat t1_j4hwyik wrote

And you know despite it being dystopian as fuck, it’s not gonna stop a single real criminal that I care about.


baddfingerz1968 t1_j4ic35q wrote

And the technology is FAR from infallible still. People have been sent to prison on bogus convictions based on faulty facial recognition evidence. It doesn't work reliably yet law enforcement keep doubling down and utilizing it.



[deleted] t1_j4jasc8 wrote

Cameras still have trouble even seeing people with darker skin tones properly, and we're using them to "facially recognize" people for legal purposes. Just a bunch of lazy fucks who don't wanna do their own jobs over relying on technology is all it is if you ask me.


baddfingerz1968 t1_j4jghf3 wrote

Yes, imagine your life being ruined over a mistake. Even financial compensation often cannot remedy that.


pilzenschwanzmeister t1_j4k9edt wrote

No amount of money could compensate me for a single night in American prison.


dont-speak-of-this t1_j4kwz8s wrote

Who’s prison would you prefer?


elRigs83 t1_j4lmrj5 wrote


baddfingerz1968 t1_j4nv4jm wrote

Your life would still be in shambles. Heavy stigma and loss of rights after a felony conviction. Though I have read that these progressive countries are doing a good job of reforming the correctional systems, making them more humane.


Hugegodamnrat t1_j4idx1k wrote

Complete bullshit. We live in a country that’s somehow increasingly authoritarian, but somehow violent crime is on the rise more than ever. none of this bullshit works.


tomtom5858 t1_j4ikj71 wrote

Violent crime is quite significantly down, despite the spike in 2020. That's just the lie they feed you to justify their actions (even if you know it doesn't help).


hedgetank t1_j4nadp2 wrote

Justify their actions, justify encroaching on civil rights, justify outrage and to keep the political donations flowing. Nothing gets votes and money like fear, baby.


tomtom5858 t1_j4nhw27 wrote

Nothing gets people to vote conservative like fear. You can't get progressive votes with fear politics.


Hugegodamnrat t1_j4iq14v wrote

Yeah…whatever you say. I wish it was that way and that’s what the news been saying. But that’s definitely not what most of us are seeing with our own eyes. Is it REALLY going down or is it just being prosecuted and reported significantly less?


9-11GaveMe5G t1_j4iy691 wrote

Let me guess, you also think there's a migrant caravan at the border that magically wasn't there when trump was in office?


nox66 t1_j4j7rmx wrote

After everything you saw from police departments in 2020, do you really think it's that infeasible that they're being more careless about recording proper crime numbers?


9-11GaveMe5G t1_j4k6dol wrote

Wouldn't they want to over count to justify their jobs?


nox66 t1_j4k6sku wrote

If there was even a sign that they would get proper oversight, maybe. And the average cop is not going to suddenly be on their best behavior. They're just going to be lazier, because you can't get in trouble if you don't get involved.


Hugegodamnrat t1_j4j43f8 wrote

That’s not what I believe at all. Hell no. I hope nobody thinks I’m a trumpie. I’m just very skeptical of crime statistics because what I see around me is the absolute opposite and it’s rising, but granted, I live in a historically pretty bad area.

And I do think that some people (probably a increasing number) just don’t report things that happened to them (especially sex crimes)

But either way if it’s going up or down we can still agree that whatever this is, it’s bullshit.


tomtom5858 t1_j4j091t wrote

I'd advise you look into the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. The media talking about it causes you to notice what's there more, rather than there actually being an increase in crime.


Hugegodamnrat t1_j4j6b7s wrote

I did check the crime rate index and my neighborhood is doing significantly shittier recently (as a exception), so maybe that explains my perspective. That doesn’t speak for the whole nation though so you’re right on that.

Increasing or decreasing crime, we can still agree that this is scary, a waste of taxpayer money, and nothing good will come out of this sort of technology becoming more commonplace.


mmnnButter t1_j4j8bn3 wrote

Its not build for you. Crimes against the rich are declining


turbotum t1_j4j3u14 wrote

It works great, they just lie about what it's for.


TakeTheWheelTV t1_j4jvvch wrote

And in San Francisco, they’ve already approved robots with lethal force. Should play out well…


baddfingerz1968 t1_j4jw7ls wrote

Shit is going to be looking like Robocop soon.


Vashsinn t1_j4l2jsk wrote

It's already looking like watchdogs but shitty.


hedgetank t1_j4na6gj wrote

Clara's death in Watchdogs was absolutely shit. SHe deserved better.



Curious_Charge9431 t1_j4jqee6 wrote

Well they can't be too successful at fighting crime. After all, if the NYPD managed to find a recipe which eliminated crime, it would be an existential threat to them. Policing as an institution need crime to survive.

As for these cameras, the huge "NYPD" branding on the cameras says a lot to me. It's not NYC branding, it's not NY state branding, it's not no branding at all, it's police branding. The branding is for the purpose of dominance. This system is more about dominance than it is anything else.


mrdevil413 t1_j4ivrza wrote

Nope. But when they fuck up they use it to track Jason Bourne for days


Ilookbetterthanyou t1_j4j7gs0 wrote

2% if the time they'll use it for a crime, 98% to tell your employer you weren't really sick but shopping.


kitchen_clinton t1_j4knbsg wrote

And if one of the cops does something wrong(Epstein) the camera will not be operational.


kingmayo t1_j4kzaft wrote

Well if YOU don’t care then it’s worthless