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The_Primate t1_j99n1mb wrote

It's a combination of

Lavalier mics replacing single mics for scenes so that people don't have to shout or speak clearly to be heard.

A quest for high dynamic range so that exciting explosions and the like seem louder than dialogue.

A desire for authenticity even if that means that some dialogue will be difficult to hear or even completely inaudible.

It's quite annoying to a lot of people.

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Fuzzikopf t1_j9b5rpj wrote

>A quest for high dynamic range so that exciting explosions and the like seem louder than dialogue.

I hate this trend so fucking much, it pretty much never enhances the viewing experience. In 95% of the cases, it's just annoying.

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The_Primate t1_j9bmpbc wrote

Yeah, it means I end up riding the volume control so that I don't wake my daughter up with house wobbling explosions.

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Optimal_Plate_4769 t1_j9fwdte wrote

wear. headphones.

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The_Primate t1_j9gegq2 wrote

While watching TV with my partner? Both of us sitting there on the sofa in headphones?

That shouldn't be necessary.

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Optimal_Plate_4769 t1_j9fwcrw wrote

10 minutes into The French Connection (1971) two characters have dialogue about going out for one drink and as soon as it's decided we cut to a significantly louder club scene.

it's not a bad thing. it isn't 'annoying', it's good, it even lets the sound drop in favour for non-diegetic elements for the purpose of storytelling after a bit.

it's not new and it's really not a bad thing. if you really are worried about loud stuff being too loud, wear headphones and cap the max. you won't have to raise the sound or touch it because even a whisper can be heard.

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Fuzzikopf t1_j9fzi9z wrote

Of course having some dynaminc range can be good. But the way that Nolan and friends use it is absolutely ridiculous and way overdone. That's what makes it so annyoing, even if there is an artistic/realistic aspect to it.

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Optimal_Plate_4769 t1_j9fzmua wrote

> But the way that Nolan and friends use it is absolutely ridiculous and way overdone

no, i'm sorry, but there's not a single line in Nolan movies that you need to hear that can't be heard. none.

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crdctr t1_j9dpoe1 wrote

They go for the audio level of an actual conversation, but how many times a day do you ask someone to repeat themselves? In reality, We can't hear shit lol

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mint_lint t1_j9argnq wrote

I think covid is the culprit.

You couldn’t physically get on the mix stage and review your show with the mixer because of covid protocols. If you were lucky the director could get on the mix stage during covid. But a lot of the studios forbade it. So you had directors, producers, and showrunners giving audio notes remotely.

Which was a disaster because there was no uniform way for all the people giving notes to monitor the audio.

Color was already dialed in for remote work ahead of covid. A lot of color houses send any remote participants an iPad Pro. There’s not a lot of color setting to tweak on an iPad Pro so it was easier for the color houses to know everyone was viewing the content in the same color space.

Also, a good number of sound mixers are still working from home. Everyone’s home office is a different shape. And has different acoustic properties. There’s no way to pink out all the different rooms to make sure everyone is calibrated the same way.

EDIT: Sound also isn’t given enough respect on set. It’s always image over audio. If the boom mic gets in the way, its gone for that set up. And production schedules are so tight now that crew will be off building or striking another set while action is being recorded nearby. So you constantly have people shouting for work to be stopped because all that work is getting picked up by the audio devices.

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llloksd t1_j9btf0f wrote

This was an issue long before COVID. People watching way more at home during COVID just highlighted.

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mint_lint t1_j9bzsz2 wrote

Thread title says “these days”. Highlighting the pitfalls of collaborating during covid seemed fitting.

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