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[deleted] t1_j9xqrw5 wrote

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jayz93j t1_j9xr046 wrote

That’s just not true. Plenty happens, some of it wasn’t well written but it doesn’t distract IMO from how amazing S4 is. I agree with OP

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Lil_Mcgee t1_j9y01pk wrote

Yeah the notion that an unfinished story has no value is a very pessimistic one. We spend plenty of time piecing together the stories of real history even though we know we'll never have a complete picture of it.

It's a fucking shame how it all turned out and I don't blame any individual for not wanting to engage with ASOIAF any further. I just hope that the prevailing narrative that the early seasons/the books are fundamentally tainted will start to shift soon and that they can be appreciated in spite of their conclusion or lack thereof.

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JimTheSaint t1_j9xtnnx wrote

Not true. There were solid climaxes on all of the first 5 seasons or so. Yes they fucked the conclusion and we are all lesser people because of it, but you cannot take those first 5 seasons away from us. They were magical

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MrDabollBlueSteppers t1_j9xzj1r wrote

5 was closer to 6-8 in terms of quality than to 1-4

It had some cool moments but the quality of plot, writing and dialogue took a tumble there

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doctorMiami1337 t1_j9y006s wrote

Season 5 definitely wasn't as good as the first 4, true.

I always give it a pass though beacuse the last 3 episodes in season 5 were really fucking good, especially episode 8.

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JimTheSaint t1_j9y0bjj wrote

I think that 5 might might not have been as good as season 1-4 but it was a lot better than most other shows, and far from 6-8.

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Lil_Mcgee t1_j9yg9oy wrote

> It had some cool moments but the quality of plot, writing and dialogue took a tumble there

That's how I'd describe 6. 5 was a mixed bag and the lows were really low but it still felt like they were trying.

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TVsGoneWrong t1_j9xr9tb wrote

Yep. And with GRRM not even finishing the books, I don't trust that the entire problem was only on those two idiot showrunners. Don't trust HotD at all on landing the ending, and considering they are keeping GoT with its trash ending as "canon" for the future of the same world that HotD takes place in, I don't even care about it in the first place. How can anything on HotD even matter or make sense in the context of the non sense that happens in the future?

But in response to the OP - yes season 4 was great. And it was the last great season too :(

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Lil_Mcgee t1_j9ygo1p wrote

> Don't trust HotD at all on landing the ending

The story being told in HotD is already finished in Fire & Blood, they'll have to flesh it out a lot but it has a clear and defined trajectory.

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JimTheSaint t1_j9xtvwc wrote

It took him 7 years to write book 5. And that was great. And before tv show even started. So I don't think that you can draw any conclusion. He is just a slow writer .

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