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AinsleysAmazingMeat t1_jadhjm1 wrote

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Trying to swim across the ocean is exactly the kind of crazy shit a First Age elf would do, this complaint has always confused me. Its not like she even made it.

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narhiril t1_jadp1or wrote

Her uncle rode into Angband alone and challenged Morgoth to single combat, this kind of thing happens a lot in this family.

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SuperBowlXLIX t1_jadzurf wrote

The text should inform the audience (who largely won’t be Tolkien experts) that this is something a First Age elf would do. The way it looks in the show comes off silly to an average viewer.

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AinsleysAmazingMeat t1_jaeijno wrote

How would they inform the audience in a better way?

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SuperBowlXLIX t1_jaejfh4 wrote

Have a character say “I don’t trust those First Age elves, they’re always taking stupid risks and don’t think their decisions through”. Show one doing something stupid, like that one black elf, and have a human go “wow, those First Age elves do really impulsive things with no regard to their or others’ safety!”

I’m being blunt lol but my point is that there are ways you can setup a character’s actions prior to them doing something, and this should happen if the audience won’t have prior knowledge of what these characters are like.

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AinsleysAmazingMeat t1_jaekm1b wrote

I feel like the show pretty quickly establishes that Galadriel is kind of insane. Her first scene is climbing a giant icy cliff, then pushing her struggling men through a blizzard on the vague chance of finding a clue to help advance her centuries long revenge mission.

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SuperBowlXLIX t1_jaf4l7d wrote

That has nothing to do with First Age elves being inordinate risk takers. It means Galadriel specifically has revenge on her mind. I don’t think pushing her men equates to jumping off a ship a thousand miles at sea, and certainly doesn’t follow your statement of Elves from this time period being crazy.

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doegred t1_jadnnpm wrote

Exactly. Galadriel's family (including Galadriel herself) are the people who were mad enough to cross the equivalent of the Arctic on foot rather than simply ask forgiveness of the Valar and return to Valinor. And then early Second Age Galadriel herself is the woman who's seen more or less her entire paternal family die as a result of said pride, and is the only survivor (except for maybe one insane cousin) out of her entire generation of 10/11 cousins + 3 brothers... and still says 'eh, nope, still not going to ask the gods for forgiveness or heed their advice!' The show just dramatised her hubris.

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