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Thongs0ng t1_ja94r7u wrote

Reply to comment by MadeByTango in 'Citadel': Amazon’s Big Bet for a Global TV Franchise - Richard Madden and Priyanka Chopra Jonas star in Amazon’s ambitious action spy series that will premiere on Amazon on April 28, with planned spin-offs around the world. by Neo2199

Prime really wants to break into “prestige” television on the level of HBO, but they’ve never quite been able to make a water-cooler show no matter how much money they throw at it.

The closest they’ve come is The Boys, but even that isn’t on the level of HBO/classic AMC offerings. I wonder what the missing ingredient is.

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NeoNoireWerewolf t1_ja9a9ne wrote

Wasn't Marvelous Mrs. Maisel huge for a couple of seasons? And it got a ton of awards attention. Feels like that is their biggest hit to date, even more so than The Boys, but I'm basing that more off the number of every day people I saw talking about Maisel compared to The Boys, actual data might be a different story.

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Thongs0ng t1_ja9e3ss wrote

The other commenter gave the correct answer I think - critical/audience reception kinda tapered off.

And water-cooler show, I meant more like Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, White Lotus, Last of Us, Ted Lasso, Stranger Things, Yellowstone kinda. Shows that have a strong social and cultural impact - Amazon has been trying hard to get something like that (most notably Rings of Power) for some reason despite their resources can’t seem to make it happen.

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Frazzledsoul t1_ja9hdnr wrote

Their main problem is that their audience tends to be older and likely more conservative. They will watch the crap out of something like The Rings of Power and Jack Ryan (The Rings of Power whopped House of the Dragon in streaming ratings every week but one) but they won't talk about it online.

The Boys is their only real water-cooler show, I think. I don't think this show will break the pattern.

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Radulno t1_ja9xhx9 wrote

To be fair, if people watch (and sub for) a show, it doesn't matter if it isn't talked about online.

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nickb_21 t1_jaa1c6r wrote

But the question is: Did new people subscribe to Amazon because of TROP or did most of them just watch it because they already had Amazon Prime anyway?

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astanton1862 t1_jaac2lx wrote

> they already had Amazon Prime anyway

Probably the later, but one of the reasons I keep prime around is because they release 4 or 5 good series a year.

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DingoFrisky t1_ja9lfyp wrote

Last season of Jack Ryan really became 'Dad TV'. Just the stuff your dad tells you about

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Fawqueue t1_ja9nrfv wrote

RoP didn't beat HotD overall, though. Higher streaming, but those figures didn't take into account the roughly 2mil viewers watching on HBO proper. Factoring the ENTIRE viewership into account RoP was the one getting whooped each week.

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Frazzledsoul t1_ja9oqtn wrote

Hence why I said streaming ratings. Point being, TROP was very popular, but not talked about widely online. It was also preferred by "older" viewers (adults 25-54) to HOTD.

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Locutus747 t1_ja9alfh wrote

Yea but I don’t think critical reception for the last two seasons has been as high. I’ve only watched the first two and really enjoyed them

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