Talk shows and late night shows were once one of the few chances to hear from celebrities and assume they're "candid", also used to debut groundbreaking music. Now, they're fixtures for either the older or those who are super into celebrity culture.

Steven will never get even close. He does well enough that they want to keep him and let him do some big-budget things but Letterman dominated in an era where his kind of show was on the rise.

Colbert is a bigger recognizable star because of his comedy central show and politics than his talk show. Which is more about maintaining a particular audience.